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Thread: First stock bedding Job

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    First stock bedding Job

    Bought a remington 700 tactical as I've always wanted one with a mcmillan style stock for long range. Found a stock on trademe for $470 which seemed like a good deal, but when it arrived it wasn't quite I was after.
    Buy once, cry once right? Well I'm a slow learner so after buying a second, second hand stock, I found that it was bedded about 3mm too high (stopping it feeding properly from the atlasworks bottom metal) slightly to far forward, and 2mm off center at the foreend, and just wasn't the right shape for the action to fit properly. Could have bought a manners for the price of both and be done with it.
    Anyway I decided that with my CNC router and some pillar bedding, I can make it work.
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    So I took a whole bunch of measurements and started drawing it up in CAD to see how low I needed to set the action into the stock to get the bottom metal close enough, and the action screws to actually reach. It took a while measuring the stock at both action bolt holes to get an accurate taper, then taking that and overlaying the action to bottom metal dimensions I needed and finding the right compromise of action height. Which ended up about .5mm above the top of the stock.

    Once I had that sorted I modeled the 3d stock area with the inletting details I needed. Created the tool paths and started mounting the stock up in the CNC, which took a bit to get square and level.
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    I then machined the inletting to fit, with no allowance for bedding, so I could test everything. Also opened up and centered the barrel channel.
    It took a couple of goes to get the action area wide enough so it was clamping down to the bottom rather than the sides.
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    Then test fit, bit sloppy but everything was close enough that I was happy with the height.

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    Next to put it back in, bore holes for the pillars and machine a 2mm clearance in everything except two height references.
    I also filed one pillar to legnth, and one was too short, so I drilled it out half way and epoxied in another small aluminum tube in. Not ideal, but I made do and glued it clamped together so it shouldn't have any crush.

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    Then apparently going slow enough to take a photo but not slow enough to notice id got the pillars around the wrong way, I got the action masked, and glued the pillars in at height, just clamping the action in and making sure the barrel was centered and at height.

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    Then I had a fun time extending one of the pillars in place and cutting them both to legnth....
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    A snap of the machining toolpaths.
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    A snap of the sketch I used to get the heights correct.
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    Next I cleaned out the height references I left in for gluing the pillars in place and started prepping for bedding.
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    No photos, but I set to the stressful process of filling expensive parts with epoxy and hoping they don't stick.
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    Looks like a hell of a job. Good shit.
    Great first 3 posts too BTW, adding value out of the box.
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    After mixing up the compound that was too runny, I split off half of it to thicken it up without risking ruining the whole lot. In hindsight I should have thickened the whole lot.
    Mistake three was not putting enough compound in and setting the action in, realizing, and pulling it back out to put more in.
    I also spent a lot of time just removing extra compound and cleaning it as it dried. I removed most of the masking while it was still slightly wet, figuring it would be easier, which worked not too bad.
    Because the stock doesn't quite have the right slope at the rear of the action, the 'tang' area was set below the surface which made it hard to keep the epoxy from not going over the top and locking it in.

    The next day, I couldn't help myself, I removed the rubber band and gently pulled up on the barrel, thinking if it was too difficult I would leave it for another day. To my surprise and relief, it popped out nicely.
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    I then put the stock back in the CNC and machined out all the reliefs by jogging it around manually. only one stupid mistake doing this when I hit left instead of back.
    But it came out pretty well.

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    Super happy with the results. Not super happy with the fit of the bottom metal, so I may try bedding that as well.
    The action did get some epoxy and marks on it, but I will be getting it cerakoted, so I'm not too concerned.
    I'm also going to paint the stock, just not sure what colour/design yet, so that will cover up the transitions of epoxy to carbon.
    Also looking at putting carbon in the barrel channel to stiffen it up a wee bit more.

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    Clever Chappy,well done looks sharp

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    thats a real mans shed....got some fancy tools to be sure.... how rifle groups will be ultimate test.....those pillars are HUGE....I used section of arrow shaft.

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    Wow, that looks great.

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    Nice job. I have inletted and bedded a number of stocks now. I only have a manual mill, which is still better than doing it by hand, but a CNC router would be perfect for this type of work.

    I would suggest keeping notes on the bedding, you can be sure that by the time you go to do it again, you have forgotten all the important lessons you learnt last time.

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    I have to agree with @Micky Duck. Nice man shed, tools and also some impressive talent there too.
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    Thanks guys. Learnt a lot, and still have a ways to go before the rifle is "done"

    Good point Sixtyten, may be a while, though a couple others in my collection are looking a bit jealous....

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    Nice job.
    Here is link to probably one of the best guy in the industry if that can help
    https://www.longriflesinc.com/collec...ined-inletting

 

 

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