Thread: 13,000 military-style semi-automatic weapons in NZ

If MSSA's are so dangerous were are all the dead bodies

Originally Posted by shooternz

If MSSA's are so dangerous were are all the dead bodies

We should perhaps pause and consider that. Start with a thought for the victims at Aramoana.

There is a tabular list of mass killings in NZ on Wikipedia, but which unfortunately does not detail type of weapon used.

Perhaps someone who knows could contribute such facts?

Link here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...in_New_Zealand

Regarding the Aramoana Massacre, what seems pertinent is that...

(1) Gray could have done it purely using any firearm, from a .22 semi to an SMLE to an "MSSA".
Pause for thought: Anyone here ever had just a .22 bolt action pointed at you by someone you didn't trust?

(2) Mr Gray made threats to kill in the days prior to fully going off. No action taken.
Lesson: always act on a threat to kill. Let the cops decide if it is the drink talking. You may not be the only one at risk.

(3) Mental health issues noted. Fails first part of "fit and proper person" test.

Originally Posted by Cordite

We should perhaps pause and consider that. Start with a thought for the victims at Aramoana.

There is a tabular list of mass killings in NZ on Wikipedia, but which unfortunately does not detail type of weapon used.

Perhaps someone who knows could contribute such facts?

Link here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...in_New_Zealand

Regarding the Aramoana Massacre, what seems pertinent is that...

(1) Gray could have done it purely using any firearm, from a .22 semi to an SMLE to an "MSSA".
Pause for thought: Anyone here ever had just a .22 bolt action pointed at you by someone you didn't trust?

(2) Mr Gray made threats to kill in the days prior to fully going off. No action taken.
Lesson: always act on a threat to kill. Let the cops decide if it is the drink talking. You may not be the only one at risk.

(3) Mental health issues noted. Fails first part of "fit and proper person" test.

thanks. pure sense at work here

Originally Posted by Cordite

We should perhaps pause and consider that. Start with a thought for the victims at Aramoana.

There is a tabular list of mass killings in NZ on Wikipedia, but which unfortunately does not detail type of weapon used.

Perhaps someone who knows could contribute such facts?

Link here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...in_New_Zealand

Regarding the Aramoana Massacre, what seems pertinent is that...

(1) Gray could have done it purely using any firearm, from a .22 semi to an SMLE to an "MSSA".

Most of Gray's victims were killed with his 22s AFAIK, only a few with the AK.

Originally Posted by Cordite

There is a tabular list of mass killings in NZ on Wikipedia, but which unfortunately does not detail type of weapon used.

Perhaps someone who knows could contribute such facts?

Link here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...in_New_Zealand

Ashburton WINZ murders: pump action shotgun
Panmure RSA murders: shotgun
Raurimu: shotgun
Bain family: 22lr
Ratima family: hammer, knife
Schlaepfer family: shotgun, knife

I've never edited a Wikipedia article and don't plan to start now.

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Originally Posted by stretch

Ashburton WINZ murders: pump action shotgun
Panmure RSA murders: shotgun
Raurimu: shotgun
Bain family: 22lr
Ratima family: hammer, knife
Schlaepfer family: shotgun, knife

I've never edited a Wikipedia article and don't plan to start now.

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@stretch
Do you have a credible online source to be quoted quote for the crime/firearm type facts?

Originally Posted by Cordite

@stretch
Do you have a credible online source to be quoted quote for the crime/firearm type facts?

That was from a quick 10minute google. Mostly media articles. For credible, first-hand sources, you'd need to find he coroner's reports and/or court documents.