Thread: Aftermarket R93 and R8 Barrels – Major Safety Concerns

That is required with actions, not barrels.

Gunsmiths scrap commercial actions every day in this country because of expansion... I assume those actions were all checked and proofed.

Stagers have no incentive apart from safety in this issue?

Where are the people who have been injured as a result of all these shonky gunsmiths?

The whole... we have a problem, we must regulate attitude sucks...

People who acquired these barrels are not inexperienced, people who design and develop wildcat cartridges can identify expansion issues and catastrophic failure without warning signs are unlikely.

This is a niche area, a niche issue and we get... we must regulate....

In this country over the last few years, we have had a significant development in knowledge and understanding of cartridge and rifles particularly in the long range area that may never have occurred had everyone been qualified, and every design proofed before experimentation could occur.

Thats the last thing we need....

Originally Posted by Sidney

That is required with actions, not barrels.

Gunsmiths scrap commercial actions every day in this country because of expansion... I assume those actions were all checked and proofed.

Stagers have no incentive apart from safety in this issue?

Where are the people who have been injured as a result of all these shonky gunsmiths?

The whole... we have a problem, we must regulate attitude sucks...

People who acquired these barrels are not inexperienced, people who design and develop wildcat cartridges can identify expansion issues and catastrophic failure without warning signs are unlikely.

This is a niche area, a niche issue and we get... we must regulate....

In this country over the last few years, we have had a significant development in knowledge and understanding of cartridge and rifles particularly in the long range area that may never have occurred had everyone been qualified, and every design proofed before experimentation could occur.

Thats the last thing we need....

99% of so called gunsmiths in the world come from either the military as qualified armourers (of differing standards) or a fitter turner/engineering background.
When I completed my apprenticeship as an armourer I was offered a pretty gunsmiths cetificate from the UK.........for a fee. I am a qualified armourer, not a gunsmith. However I could set up shop without batting an eyelid or facing any regulation because in NZ I a deemed qualified as a smith.

Apart from skilled woodwork, fine engraving and in depth small arms theory, there is not much else to gunsmithing that a fitter-turner is not qualified to do, imo.
Military armourers sometimes get a bad wrap from lesser qualified people yet the 2 police armourers are ex military and they are trusted and expected to give evidence that can convict criminals.

If regulation was required for small arms repair in NZ who is qualified to oversee/govern it and would it really do anymore to prevent damage or injury?

In my current job they almost regulate the colour of your urine