Thread: ARMS OFFICE NEWSLETTER WAIKATO DISTRICT

Originally Posted by Beavis

I think it is policy to revoke endorsements if you cannot demonstrate an immediate need for it

I think your right, there seems to be an underlying intention to reduce licences or downgrade cats.

Originally Posted by Maca49

I think your right, there seems to be an underlying intention to reduce licences or downgrade cats.

I agree Maca.

Surrender by stealth.

I've had an E endorsement since they were invented and every relicencing since then I have been asked in a subtle way to surrender it along with my C.
The conversation usually goes along the lines of "I dont appear to be using these endorsements much so don't really need them do I" with comments like it's "Something to consider" then you won't have to have higher security costs or you could sell those firearms for a good price and use the money for a holiday or something etc.

The inspectors around here are all ex detectives and are all quite good but they also know what they're doing when they ask these questions, they may catch you at a weak moment or even sway your better judgement on the spur of the moment and with one stroke of their pen your endorsement/s, your legal right if judged a fit and proper person, is gone.... maybe for good.

My standard response is "No thanks I'll be keeping these" end of story.

I have also been asked each time to supply a list of all my non endorsed firearms for Police to hold on my behalf for "Insurance purposes" which I believe is just another way of obtaining information by stealth that the Police are not currently entitled to.
I always politely decline by saying my insuranced company already has this information.

Cheers
Pete

Originally Posted by P38

I agree Maca.

Surrender by stealth.

I've had an E endorsement since they were invented and every relicencing since then I have been asked in a subtle way to surrender it along with my C.
The conversation usually goes along the lines of "I dont appear to be using these endorsements much so don't really need them do I" with comments like it's "Something to consider" then you won't have to have higher security costs or you could sell those firearms for a good price and use the money for a holiday or something etc.

The inspectors around here are all ex detectives and are all quite good but they also know what they're doing when they ask these questions, they may catch you at a weak moment or even sway your better judgement on the spur of the moment and with one stroke of their pen your endorsement/s, your legal right if judged a fit and proper person, is gone.... maybe for good.

My standard response is "No thanks I'll be keeping these" end of story.

I have also been asked each time to supply a list of all my non endorsed firearms for Police to hold on my behalf for "Insurance purposes" which I believe is just another way of obtaining information by stealth that the Police are not currently entitled to.
I always politely decline by saying my insuranced company already has this information.

Cheers
Pete

That just makes me pissed. Why not be straight up with somebody than beat around the bush with clever wording. Interviewing you like you're a criminal, great. My AO has voiced his distaste for semi autos to me, but at least he is straight up and knows what he is an is not able to do under the law. He's great to deal with. I really feel for you guys who have to put up with all the bullshit from vetting officers and AO's who just can't keep their beak out of your rightful business.

Originally Posted by Beavis

That just makes me pissed. Why not be straight up with somebody than beat around the bush with clever wording. Interviewing you like you're a criminal, great. My AO has voiced his distaste for semi autos to me, but at least he is straight up and knows what he is an is not able to do under the law. He's great to deal with. I really feel for you guys who have to put up with all the bullshit from vetting officers and AO's who just can't keep their beak out of your rightful business.

They way to really stuff them up would be for everyone on this forum to apply for a C cat, problem would be cost, but if I did apply I don't see how it could be refused based on my life long interest alone. I'll think about that.