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Typical sensationalist drivel from the Herald full of exaggerations, inaccuracies, lies, and overall imbalance. Imagine if those opining on firearms actually understood the first thing about them.
Not giving that peopaganda outlet any views or clicks.
The majority of people no longer believe their lies anyway, and that is good.
The sooner those places shut down because they are broke the better.
Apart from one statement about research it seems to be balanced to me. It gives Nicole air time and shares perspectives from both sides. From the statements Nicole makes it would be easy enough to deduce that MSR's could come back in some way; the journo opens with "Semi-automatics could make a return to gun ranges with New Zealand’s firearms laws in for a major shake-up this term". Thats a reasonable assumption.
It closes from a pro perspective.
While we're at it, any news on the register?
NopeQuote:
Originally Posted by MB
I dont think we will hear anything (apart from the propaganda) till the review (the outcome of that review will be very clear if it is done with honest intentions).
It will then be hard to justify the outrageous costs for the non existent benefit.
We will see... patience, not much longer.
i wonder how many leaks of the register has happened already? doesnt matter how good your safe and security is when some scumbag has your wife and kids at gunpoint they will get what they want. the best firearm security is anonymity
Seriously did you even read it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatberg
Did you? Sure; @Fatberg had a visceral reaction to the article, but having read it myself - I'm fairly certain that there was a bias in the reporting. Of course, your mileage may vary....but come on - if you cannot see the leaning of the reporter then you're part of the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by vulcannz
I am not overly hopefull yes would be neat to have a Remington 742 again - miss mine ( sob sob ) but personally we might see semis allowed for range shooting but semi centerfires for hunting well I have fingers toes crossed but not hopefull - if we do where the hell would one get a 742 ???
There’ll be plenty hiding away that will come out of the woodwork :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry the hunter
Any “leaning” is likely reflecting the majority public opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickoli
I doubt semis for recreational hunting will be back. But you do make a good case. If they do come back it's not like there's gonna be a second hand market for a while! All the old gats are gone...Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry the hunter
You really love making shit up to suit your opinion/narrative don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
yes the sad part is that these zealots just dont get that many semi auto were hunting rifles - they were never military - Browning BAR- Rem 742 -Winchester 100 and more were checkered blued walnut stocked dedicated hunting rifles - they lump them all in as nasty dont need etc etc and wonder why we feel as legitimate hunters we were hard done by
In all honesty, I am not too keen on semis for hunting on public land. Plenty of cowboys out there that substituted bad shooting skills with volume of fire.
For pest control and recreational target shooting absolutely. On private land also.
One mans shit is another mans truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by STC
.....all the old gats are gone...supposedly....Quote:
Originally Posted by Makros
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You have your wish. News Hub is gone. Is that a good thing? We will now only have State owned TV news.Quote:
Originally Posted by STC
I back my reading comprehension, yours however I'm not sure.
They effectively were state owned. PIJF anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
State-owned maybe (state-influenced might be more accurate) but they mainly reflect the values of previous management, and the inner-city cafe culture of their journalists. I notice they ask opinions from passing people in Auckland and Christchurch. The responses might be very different in Taihape and Eketahuna.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatberg
You sure talk a lot of "truth"Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
SO once they are gone we can replace the whole lot with actual reporters who do actual presentation of information in a balanced way without pushing agendas.....? Heres hopingQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
the one thing my old Rem 742 semi did that a lot of firearms I have used were sadly lacking in and that was they handled like a shotgun -Quote:
Originally Posted by STC
https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/pijfQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatberg
Hah. Do they exist nowadays? While I defend reasonable journalism agains knee jerk bias, it is becoming the exceptionQuote:
Originally Posted by timattalon
Nicole will be a formidable advisary whenever this is debated. From what I've seen she channels the breathing, focus, trigger control and concentration on the target in debates and stays calm much to the annoyance of her opponents.
Shes a smooth operator. Doesnt get drawn into the distracting bs a lot of them seem to
....sure....now ask why a supposedly "impartial" journalist cannot just report the facts.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Plus I dont like certain firearms so that means no one else can either...... :P
No great lossQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Newshub just has.Quote:
Originally Posted by STC
@STC I heard ACT said there was going to be a 6month review and that it'd be completed this year, haven’t heard if a date has been set yet or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by STC
what could we do as a forum I wonder ? collectively there's a few of us - I dont doubt the forum is being read by others shall we say - and just watched Nicole Mckee put it out there on TV that they are looking at proven club use for semi auto centerfire - prospective owners will need to prove they are club members and need that type of firearm for their sport - so rec hunters does not look good
Interesting thread.
I posted an interview with the leader of the Canadian Opposition Party last week on the drama they are having with Firearms Laws - and I copped a 7 day ban for posting Political stuff.
I wonder why this thread hasnt been locked or deleted and every poster slapped with a ban???
Oh dear Tahr, the facts you have presented are a rather inconvenient rebuttal of the assertion that Newshub were effectively state owned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Was always gonna turn to shit, so it's locked now. At least this thread was actually about our laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportco62
Despite common opinion most mods don't go looking for shit so until it's reported it can slip past the goalie for a while, also we have jobs and families outside of the volunteer work we do on here.