Thread: Colfo Announce Firearms Registry Review

Some firearms that don't have serial numbers applied (it's a 20th century invention) have caused another problem, we now have a lot of the same model of rifle with serial number 1...

There are also other ways much cheaper of recording serial numbers and ownership transfers and they have been in use for years. Some places (in the US as well surprisingly) make you keep a unique numbered record book in which you record the purchase date, who it came from, and the info for the firearm including disposal date and who or how it was disposed of. You retain the book, must produce it on request and are responsible for it's security obviously. It seems a much better system than what we have - as the only way to check it's accurate is the same as the electronic registry. Cuts out the hassle and error factor straight off though and has the same prevention effect as the electronic version. Lose the serial numbered book and have to explain that...

How is the register going to actually stop someone selling a gun to a gang member. Tell me please I need a good laugh...

Originally Posted by blip

How is the register going to actually stop someone selling a gun to a gang member. Tell me please I need a good laugh...

If the registry stopped gang members from aquiring firearms the left wingers would not be so adamantly in favor of it...

Well, you can associate with criminals without knowing they are criminals to be fair. And there is a fair bit of go forwards to your argument that people who shouldn't have been licensed were allowed to get them - that I don't think anyone will dispute!

Yes and no, theres a huge amount of other pressures on a lot of these guys and they (in a lot of cases anyway) just don't have the energy to devote to that. Staffing woes, can't get staff or when they do turn into a bloody nightmare (drugs, attendance, theft, hangers on creating damage etc, not doing the damn job when they do turn up), mechanical issues with gear, contractors pissing the world off, suppliers not doing the job, Fonterra etc (nuff said), council and regulatory hurdles, blah blah blah blah blah.

I know of one outfit where their answer was build a trickier fence by digging out and supporting their land side of the boundary fence. I looked sideways at the fella, and said it won't stop them jumping in???? What you up to Willus? He replied I know, I want them to jump in. Then I can shoot them at my convenience during the daytime so I don't have to be on the farm 14-16 hours a day and again 6 hours at night doing pest control... Roger, right you are...

I've taken a few pesky thieves off a few local places as a favour - but no way I'd meet the definition as a 'P' operator with that but there is a real shortage of people A) willing to do the work and B) able to put safety plans in place to meet the health and safety requirements.

Originally Posted by No.3

I know of one outfit where their answer was build a trickier fence by digging out and supporting their land side of the boundary fence. I looked sideways at the fella, and said it won't stop them jumping in???? What you up to Willus? He replied I know, I want them to jump in. Then I can shoot them at my convenience during the daytime so I don't have to be on the farm 14-16 hours a day and again 6 hours at night doing pest control... Roger, right you are...
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Not very sporting but I've been thinking about how to set up something like that too.... some kind of deer trap or pit to corral them until I'm ready, rather than knocking them over on their terms. They're pests here.

Speaking of pits, the very first time I saw deer damage on this farm was about 15 years ago, I had dug a pit and lined it with plastic to use it to brew fermented biofertilizer. I'd just got the pit dug and lined with plastic, came back in the morning and the lining had deer print holes all through it. Flaming animal had either jumped or fallen into the pit and made a series of nice holes through the lining on the way out. That was the end of that idea.

Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

Not very sporting but I've been thinking about how to set up something like that too.... some kind of deer trap or pit to corral them until I'm ready, rather than knocking them over on their terms. They're pests here.

Speaking of pits, the very first time I saw deer damage on this farm was about 15 years ago, I had dug a pit and lined it with plastic to use it to brew fermented biofertilizer. I'd just got the pit dug and lined with plastic, came back in the morning and the lining had deer print holes all through it. Flaming animal had either jumped or fallen into the pit and made a series of nice holes through the lining on the way out. That was the end of that idea.

Flick me a pm if you want some ideas Ben
I've built some very successful deer traps.

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Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

Not very sporting but I've been thinking about how to set up something like that too.... some kind of deer trap or pit to corral them until I'm ready, rather than knocking them over on their terms. They're pests here.

Speaking of pits, the very first time I saw deer damage on this farm was about 15 years ago, I had dug a pit and lined it with plastic to use it to brew fermented biofertilizer. I'd just got the pit dug and lined with plastic, came back in the morning and the lining had deer print holes all through it. Flaming animal had either jumped or fallen into the pit and made a series of nice holes through the lining on the way out. That was the end of that idea.

The simplest I saw was dependent on contour but basically the cocky had run his deer fence into the side of an almost vertical face and started again on the other side the same way
It might mean scratching into the side of a slope with a digger first

Deer could come down the slope and into the fenced area but not out

The ting is a simple dremmel followed by a centre punch makes the info useless.

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

The ting is a simple dremmel followed by a centre punch makes the info useless.

Geez - you're neat and tidy aren't you? Apparently a couple of seconds with an angle grinder removes the identifiers, increases portability at the loud end and removes the problematic lump of wood at the back that prevents you from unlawfully concealing the thing inside your jacket on the way to your (helpfully prior arranged and publicly notified for everyone's safety) criminal shootout. Where's the Tui can emoji when you need it haha.

Yep, thats a way forwards. You only need one in the trap and the rest will stay near that one if they aren't frightened off. If you park it somewhere away from what you don't want deer around double the saving on labour - one on chasing them and two on fixing up the damage...

Wandering off the original intent of the thread there chaps. Bit of a stretch from crims with illegally obtained guns to trapping deer.....

The military semi-auto-sport (no idea what it's Really called ) is apparently coming-back under Pistol-Regulations , which if I remember-correctly , is exactly what people asked the last Govt to do, instead of banning them across-the-board as they did . Watch this-space I guess

Semi auto sporting rifle? No such animal as a semi auto military rifle unless it's big calibres...

Originally Posted by Fee Knicks

Wandering off the original intent of the thread there chaps. Bit of a stretch from crims with illegally obtained guns to trapping deer.....

That's just how thing's roll here. Trapping deer is much more interesting than whining about shit we can't change.