I have new living arrangements underway (i.e. I just bought a house), wondering if an endorsed safe can be in the basement if the entrance to said basement is from outside, not through the house, does anyone know?
Cheers, Tom
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I have new living arrangements underway (i.e. I just bought a house), wondering if an endorsed safe can be in the basement if the entrance to said basement is from outside, not through the house, does anyone know?
Cheers, Tom
I have had that exact setup, its no diferent to the storage being in a unatached garage and there are countless people in that situationQuote:
Originally Posted by tommygun
Put a deadbolt on the basement door. Reinforce it if you can.
Try to put the safe where it's hard for someone trying to break in to access the locks and hinges or swing a hammer.Out of sight in a cupboard helps too.
Make sure the keys are in at least the same level of security as the guns themselves.
Layer your security.
Wouldn't hurt to whack a PIR in there and hook it up to your alarm as a separate zone, provided that you don't have rats and whatnot moving through the area but yeah, as Res said it is the same as in a garage or outbuilding
use a dual (microwave/infra red) detector. it will ignore small animals. i have mine set to ignore mass under 15kg. no false alarms with the cat.Quote:
Originally Posted by 308
https://www.riscogroup.com/products/family/124
there are corner mount models too
As long as it's secured to the dwelling I don't see why not.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommygun
I'd be more worried dampness in a basement though.
Thanks for the advice everyone, it's actually dry as hell under the floor, but i'll try to get a safe dehumidifier, I'll be adding an alarm of some sort and will try to reinforce the basement door as much as possible, the walls are concrete and the only basement window is just big enough to crawl through so I will look to add bars on the inside. It's a good area with neighbours who have views of all sides of the house and keep an eye on each other, at least one of them is also a shooter, so I'm pretty happy in that regard.
if you need alarm advice gimme a yell.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommygun
This pretty much.Quote:
Originally Posted by res
Sucks to have it in such a place, but it's just not practical to have a safe in a house, especially if you rent.
@gonetropo I want to put a PIR inside my (locked) wardrobe where my E Cat safe is. A system that will sent a text to me if tripped.Quote:
Originally Posted by gonetropo
Possibly have some options to be future proofed so I then include the whole house in the system. We have an old alarm system already, but not currently working.
Any recommendations please?
Really like this ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by dogmatix
yes its possible to put a pir in a small enclosure. most alarms systems will domestic dial (connect to a phone not a monitoring service)
there are lots of cheap alarm systems out there, there are allot of monkeys who put them in too!! there is nothing worse than an alarm that false alarms or even worse doesnt go off when an intruder is on the premises.
depending on what area on nz you are i may be able to tell you companies to avoid.
Yeah, I used to work for the parent company for INTEK in 2008-09. Lots of dubious stuff on the market now.
I was thinking of a reed switch for wardrobe door and a vibration sensor for the safe, especially if they try to grind the underfloor plate up.
I'm in Pukekohe.
Don't call it a basement. Stock it with dried food, put the gunsafe in there and call it a doomsday prepper bunker.
There are cellphone apps out that can use a cellphone as the alarm
I've got this pretty roughly from a mate who is actually in the know but it goes kinda like this-
1 Buy cheap cellph on prepay with ok camera
2 Install security app and set it up (needs to be in coverage area obv)
3 Leave in wardrobe/garage/shed like a cross between a PIR and a game camera - anything that crosses the cameras field of view will generate a series of picture texts from the phone straight to your phone
If I have got it right you can text a code to the phone to switch it off when you are accessing that area and arm it again
It would need to stay plugged in on permanent charge and if some thief knows it's there and hides his face or you are a long way away it isn't so good but it might be the right sort of deal for someone seeing as us NZers are so notoriously tight hahaha
TL;DR Can do monitored alarm with a cheap prepay
Sounds like an interesting idea, how does the phone detect movement in the camera screen? Name of the app?Quote:
Originally Posted by 308
I see absolutely no reason to require a sim card or even credit. This could be a bit cheaper again.Quote:
Originally Posted by 308
Simply connect it to your wifi, have the images/video sent to you via the internet.
@gonetropo we have UFB fibre & the ph is voice over IP, ( no ph line) when they put our alarm in they said they couldn't set up an alerting msg to my cell phone? Surely there must be a way?
theres always a way, whats the alarm ? who put it in? PM me on thisQuote:
Originally Posted by outdoorlad
This is the only flaw I could see in your relatively well thought out plan; Leaving a phone permanently plugged in over a long period of time would cause the lithium ion battery to expand, which isn't a particularly good thing to do. Especially if you also consider how hot NZ garages get in summer (depending on where you live of course) this in itself can help speed up the process for a potentially nasty battery rupture.Quote:
Originally Posted by 308
High risk to take being near or close to dem investments
Sorry I've forgotten the name of the app but a quick search under the terms-
"cellphone prepay security camera app alarm remote"
turned up this Apple one
https://www.cnet.com/uk/news/app-tur...curity-system/
which seems to use the camera to detect motion and send a short video to your phone which then becomes saved offsite (ie on your phone)
They explain it as-
A motion detector feature will alert you if something moves in front of the camera and will send you a 5-second video clip via e-mail. You can also check in with someone at your home or business with two-way audio and video.
As for keeping it charged there are smart trickle chargers around that don't let it overheat
Basically the gadgets that a security company will sell you are around with a bit of Googling and the only thing is you don't have someone sitting there 24/7 watching it for you
l2.l2.yyyg. otherwise...HTC..you. UT. UvVD
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Wtf that's gibberish Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by clickbang
That's what happens when you don't lock your phone in your pocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
In other words, you could use an IP camera. No need for batteries.
Now that is one heck of an idea - haven't see that before. I've seen something similar with game cameras, but have seen them get stolen outside or ripped apart inside and the sim card removed. I guess the only issue is making sure the phone's operating system and alarm app are stable enough that they don't crash and stop working without your knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by 308
That too - I do appreciate the fact that a cell phone doesn't require a physical internet connection or router on site, which frees up the places it can be used.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jexla