Thread: Firearms Storage Inspection ....

Originally Posted by Savage1

Yes but if people keep pushing their luck and ignoring the Arms Code, eg not storing bolt seperatly because they're to lazy, the Police may decide that they're not "fit and proper" and revoke your licence under sec 27 of the Arms Act. Then you wouldn't even be able to possess an air rifle.

If you follow the Arms Code then they could never argue that you aren't "fit and proper", if you ignore it because it isn't law then you may be giving them grounds to revoke your licence. Some small minor things just aren't worth the hassle.

The argument was that the bolt had to be seperate from the firearm AND seperated from the ammunition ... 3 seperate places

Are you saying that the Arms code says that that (3 seperate locations) should be the case ?

I was given "the latest" version of the arms code last night and I cant see that in there.



Tim

Originally Posted by kiwi39

The argument was that the bolt had to be seperate from the firearm AND seperated from the ammunition ... 3 seperate places

Are you saying that the Arms code says that that (3 seperate locations) should be the case ?

I was given "the latest" version of the arms code last night and I cant see that in there.



Tim

I was speaking in a broader sense where people keep saying "but the arms code isn't law". I think that if you follow the arms code and use common sense then you should be fine.

Originally Posted by Savage1

I was speaking in a broader sense where people keep saying "but the arms code isn't law". I think that if you follow the arms code and use common sense then you should be fine.

Savage1, I'm one of those. And I will keep repeating it.

The police merely enforce the law, they do not make it. Most of the time, there is no problem. You would however be naive in the extreme to think that police forces around the world do not use some of their powers for their own benefit or for other motives.

I like to keep an open mind. For the most part, I think the arms code is perfectly fine. There are some small parts that I think are just plain stupid, out-dated or illogical - and should be changed.

As we have seen quite clearly in this and other discussions, the issue is further compounded by varying interpretations of the same arms code document by different AOs.

Bottom line is that I would rather be an informed citizen, well aware of my rights, and not rely on the police or someone else to tell me what my rights are...

Originally Posted by ebf

Savage1, I'm one of those. And I will keep repeating it.

The police merely enforce the law, they do not make it. Most of the time, there is no problem. You would however be naive in the extreme to think that police forces around the world do not use some of their powers for their own benefit or for other motives.

I like to keep an open mind. For the most part, I think the arms code is perfectly fine. There are some small parts that I think are just plain stupid, out-dated or illogical - and should be changed.

As we have seen quite clearly in this and other discussions, the issue is further compounded by varying interpretations of the same arms code document by different AOs.

Bottom line is that I would rather be an informed citizen, well aware of my rights, and not rely on the police or someone else to tell me what my rights are...

What would Polices "own benefit" be? Enforcing the law and protecting the citizens I would presume, I'm unaware of anything else they would have to gain, they aren't a business, there are no profits.

The Polices job is not only to enforce the Arms Act etc but they are also the licencing agency who decides whether or not a person is fit and proper enough to hold a licence, so what they say goes, it is written in the Arms Act.

Argueing that you don't have to do what is recommended in the Arms Code as it isn't law with the AO probably wouldn't be in your best interest.

I pretty much agree with your post though.

Originally Posted by Savage1

What would Polices "own benefit" be? Enforcing the law and protecting the citizens I would presume, I'm unaware of anything else they would have to gain, they aren't a business, there are no profits.

Power - it can be personal vindictiveness, organizational, or societal control. Don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for individuals wearing the uniform, but just like any other organization, the Police itself is not perfect and does not always act for the public good.

Originally Posted by SiB

The fact that we're talking - and maintaining this as a dialogue (multilogue?), as opposed to argument means I have some optimism at the outcome.