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geeeezus that couldve been a disaster!
Someone deserves a serious ass-kicking!
WTF was he doing down range?
Still patching targets by the look.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Range was not cleared by the RO properly before he started the next shooter.
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Patching targets, what else?Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
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Fuck me dead that is scary.
oh shit oh dear -time for an undies change!where is the bloody communication -why didnt someone yell out "range going hot"or similar to warn all and sundry .perhaps then the guy patching may have been able to clear out or at least yell back telling em to hold it he was in the field of fire.
shit someone deserves a real reaming.
@Tommy
This video clearly demonstrates the possible result should successive layers of defences/safeguards put in place to reduce or prevent the occurance of adverse effects are affected by active and or latent conditions or failures that when lined up result in said adverse event actually occurring.
Professor James Reason explained this very well with his Swiss Cheese Model of Incident/Accident Causation.
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In this case several layers of defence/safeguards were breached , the holes in the Swiss cheese slices lined up, with a final layer of defence/safeguard, I.e. the shooters awareness training and self control to cease fire at the last minute, ultimately preventing the adverse event occurring.
This could be considered a Serious Near Hit incident, someone nearly died.
It appears from the video that Range protocol and process, layers of defence designed to prevent an adverse event occurring, was not followed.
The R/O has to shoulder responsibility for this as he is responsible to ensure that the protocols and processes, layers of defence/safeguards, are followed, it appears from the video that the range was "Not Cleared" before he called "Range in Use, Shooter to the Line".
There may be many other factors that we are unaware from the video that also contributed to this incident.
At the he end of the day "Luck" played big part in preventing a more serious incident occurring due to the failures of the layers of defence/safeguards.
Hmmmmm, I can see the eyes glazing over as we speak :P
Guess incident causation theory isn't as sexy as I think. ;)
Cheers
Pete
Well said, Pete. Those of us in the aviation industry are well versed in Human Factors. There's no such thing as an accident.
And this is the exact reason why the policy for IPSC at the whangarei pistol club is that the Range Officer is the last person to come back to the firing line. If someone is patching targets you stay with them till they are finished. Easy way to ensure that nobody is forward of the line when the next shooter starts.
That RO should have had his arse well and truly kicked off the range! I have always made a point of physically checking all targets and being the last man back before opening the range. This is especially important in situations with cover between targets. Patchers are notorious for doing their job on 'auto pilot' and have to be watched.
Anyone else find it ironical that they insist on you wearing high vis when hunting, but evidently not at the range.
That is one lucky bloke
That is very good practice. I am glad I saw this in a video and can learn from someone else's (or group for that matter) fuckup, rather than in person. Gotta take the lessons where and when they present themselves. This video or one like it should be mandatory viewing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirdguy
Something very similar happened at the 2016 IPSC Nats, some very lucky target re-setters with soiled undies and a very embarrassed International RO
I have a personal policy if im shooting on a range-i will shout "range hot firing now "-then pause for a while to carefully listen for any replay to the contrary .i also frequently visually check where members of the party are.if some are down range No one approaches the weapons even if it is to pick up earmuffs or suchlike.Im absolutely paranoid about thisand i dont take prisoners.
no bastrd now matter how ugly can be improved by a bloody great gunshot !an embalmer may be able to do so ,but no gun ever can.
WTF.......who was the retard who didn't check the range was clear first. Or who was the retard who just wandered onto the range. God that was scary.
That's the kind of thing that can happen when you use timer holders instead of Range Officers.
Was Tommy said watch and learn!
But hell that was a little too close :sick::O_O:
