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    One I’ve seen a few times in huts is where guys chamber a bolt action round when unloading or hunting half cock. Don’t push bolt down, thereby on many actions the ejector doesn’t pick the round up when bolt cycled back. Bolt closed again on apparently empty chamber, accident now waiting to happen. I’ve see it go off once when the guy pulled the trigger as part of his safety check, barrel pointed at ground outside…. I’m admittedly paranoid about that.

    Also think it’s nuts that Tikka need safety to be off to unload.
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    Flame me if you wish, but I don't think I have ever actually used the safety lever/switch on any of my hunting rifles. Ever.

    It's either "safe" due to having nothing chambered or I am holding the half cocked bolt in the crook of my thumb to not allow it to close until needed.

    Cross a stream? Eject round and push next one down, close bolt on empty chamber. Same for scrambling up a steep shitty section. Takes less than 10 seconds to render "safe" and cross obstacles etc but still allows for rapid (identified) shots.

    Don't most Tikkas have detach mags now anyway? Even with floor plate rifles surely you would void the magazine first and then simply action the bolt open and inspect chamber?

    As per OP, yeah the guy fucked up and it may have been serious. I don't disagree. But he also may not even have been aware he was about to fuck up.

    Basic handling skills should be part of the license process. Demonstrate safe loading/unloading etc. But.... forcing new applicants into X amount of range days etc is a bridge to far myself. Not everyone can get to ranges easily and may already have someone who can help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    Basic handling skills should be part of the license process. Demonstrate safe loading/unloading etc. But.... forcing new applicants into X amount of range days etc is a bridge to far myself. Not everyone can get to ranges easily and may already have someone who can help.
    The point of 'x' range days is to prove that the candidate completed the minimum prerequisite number of training days. Thats where the world is going. Shrug...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    Flame me if you wish, but I don't think I have ever actually used the safety lever/switch on any of my hunting rifles. Ever.

    It's either "safe" due to having nothing chambered or I am holding the half cocked bolt in the crook of my thumb to not allow it to close until needed.

    Cross a stream? Eject round and push next one down, close bolt on empty chamber. Same for scrambling up a steep shitty section. Takes less than 10 seconds to render "safe" and cross obstacles etc but still allows for rapid (identified) shots.

    Don't most Tikkas have detach mags now anyway? Even with floor plate rifles surely you would void the magazine first and then simply action the bolt open and inspect chamber?

    As per OP, yeah the guy fucked up and it may have been serious. I don't disagree. But he also may not even have been aware he was about to fuck up.

    Basic handling skills should be part of the license process. Demonstrate safe loading/unloading etc. But.... forcing new applicants into X amount of range days etc is a bridge to far myself. Not everyone can get to ranges easily and may already have someone who can help.

    When Mrs Finnwolf went that the course as part of the process to getting her FAL she was shown how to safely operate, load/unload various firearms, most of which she was unfamiliar with. ( probably why she managed to jam the pump action!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post

    Basic handling skills should be part of the license process. Demonstrate safe loading/unloading etc. But.... forcing new applicants into X amount of range days etc is a bridge to far myself. Not everyone can get to ranges easily and may already have someone who can help.
    I had a conversation with a guy a while ago who explained to me that he had never even touched a firearm until he was licensed and was able to go to the local sports shop and buy one. He did the mountain safety course, purchased the gun safe, flew through the vetting, got his card in the mail and off he went. Had to get the sales rep to show him how to load it, owned the gun 6 months before he learned how to remove the bolt.

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    Went Wallaby shooting many years ago with older person with a Mannlicher 6.5x54 with set triggers.While having a break he opened the bolt and started setting and firing set trigger while telling us how good it was.On standing up he closed the bolt and discharged a round into the ground between us.It turned out he had set the trigger before slamming the bolt.A near miss from a very experienced but careless shooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.FOYE View Post
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    Blaming the rifle for being "New"... Oh yeah in the manual it says "be careful of this rifle when its NEW, its likely to do anything really".
    That's probably just lawyerspeak to minimise the sentencing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    Flame me if you wish, but I don't think I have ever actually used the safety lever/switch on any of my hunting rifles. Ever.

    It's either "safe" due to having nothing chambered or I am holding the half cocked bolt in the crook of my thumb to not allow it to close until needed.

    Cross a stream? Eject round and push next one down, close bolt on empty chamber. Same for scrambling up a steep shitty section. Takes less than 10 seconds to render "safe" and cross obstacles etc but still allows for rapid (identified) shots.

    Don't most Tikkas have detach mags now anyway? Even with floor plate rifles surely you would void the magazine first and then simply action the bolt open and inspect chamber?

    As per OP, yeah the guy fucked up and it may have been serious. I don't disagree. But he also may not even have been aware he was about to fuck up.

    Basic handling skills should be part of the license process. Demonstrate safe loading/unloading etc. But.... forcing new applicants into X amount of range days etc is a bridge to far myself. Not everyone can get to ranges easily and may already have someone who can help.
    I agree with ya mate, not often i ever use the safety , rather I just keep my rifle "Brass Ready" , where I can see a round on the bolt face but not yet in the chamber - Hence the name "Brass Ready"

    I keep my finger on the brass and then when ready to shoot , gently close the bolt forward and down.

    WHen hunting in the thick stuff it's generally a .45-70 so I carry on a non cocked hammer.

 

 

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