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I can honestly say I have never put away or secured a loaded and cocked firearm.
No excuse for that kind of stupidity.


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[QUOTE=R93;302336]I can honestly say I have never put away or secured a loaded and cocked firearm.
No excuse for that kind of stupidity.

+1

perfectly understandable the guy is feeling shit etcetc.That I dont dispute. yes i fucked up once and put a .22 round through our then kitchen ceiling 930yrs ago),but now due to adverse publicity i make it a point to handle all my firearms safely and in accordance with law.my air rifle is not in my gun cabinet ,but i do check the bloody thing everyday -Is it secure ,Has someone been tampering etcetc .That too is because even wa wee chinese cheapo like that can kill.Id never store the bloody thing cocked cause i have another in the shed that has a stuffed spring ,cause its previous paranoid owner kept it permannently coked&loaded due to having some unscrupulous assholes after him.
I know ive ranted but my point remains unequivocal- as a bloody adult we are responsible for the safe storage and use of firearms -hiding it in a wardrobe is NOT secure storage IMHO.

+1 my air rifle is locked in my safe, partner has here nieces/nephews over every now & then, they are curious little people and might 'find it' if its in a wardrobe/closet.....be safe people!!!!!!

How does this happen? Even I never used to put them away loaded or cocked back when i had them at 13-15.. Some people just make you worry. These are the same kinda people I wouldn't want behind the wheel of a car.

It happens because any muppet can buy an air rifle and not have to at least try to learn the 7 basic rules.

Originally Posted by dogmatix

It happens because any muppet can buy an air rifle and not have to at least try to learn the 7 basic rules.

I've heard stories of spring air rifles going off on their own if they are cocked for too long and/or not being properly maintained.. Air guns need cleaned and oiled to!

Hmm.. cocked and loaded air rifle in a cupboard still wouldn't go off even if pointing it at someone unless trigger is pulled or catches on someone.

All comes back to where the gun is pointed when the trigger was activated. crappy lax storage and usage of a gun.


The Dad must be feeling crap,as I would in that situation.

But ill tell you this for nothing, my wife would have made damn sure I was also in hospital for head injuries and loss of hearing.

Dammit EBF I had the most wicked tirade all typed out and then I saw you post. Had to delete that shit and start again.
You have a point.
I did once accidentally wave a shotgun in the direction of my mate when I was on my way back from checking a paper target. He pulled me up on it and I bull-crapped until he seemed satisfied (it was empty but that was not my finest hour).

As for this guy though... I'm trying to think of a single scenario of why that airgun came to be loaded and left. Got nothin'. Even if kids did put it away like that, why did he leave it where they could get to it???

Father now charged by Police.

Police today said a 26-year-old Temuka man had been charged with careless use of a firearm, and would appear in Timaru District Court "in due course".

Police investigations into the incident were ongoing.

Anyone know the outcome for the little kiddy ? I hope all good.

I bought a wee semi auto 22 a while back, then while at an `ex` mates place, I thought I would show it to him.
He hunts and has few firearms. Anyway, he doesn't bother to check the state of the rifle, but proceeds to twirl it around above his head while laughing and telling me "its a fcking toy"....then he pulls the trigger. It was cocked somehow, but unloaded, luckily. I knew it was unloaded, but not sure how it got cocked.
Same guy shot a hole in the ground a meter in front of himself on hunt, while trying to lower the hammer on his 30-30 when hammer slipped. No safety on. Also bragged to me about shooting a deer at 80 meters when all he could see was a patch of orange through the bush...."But I knew it was a deer, cos I watched it for 5 minutes and could see it breathing"

I don't hunt with him anymore

Point I am making is that even people who have been around firearms for many years can make the most basic errors.

Originally Posted by Pengy

Anyone know the outcome for the little kiddy ? I hope all good.

I bought a wee semi auto 22 a while back, then while at an `ex` mates place, I thought I would show it to him.
He hunts and has few firearms. Anyway, he doesn't bother to check the state of the rifle, but proceeds to twirl it around above his head while laughing and telling me "its a fcking toy"....then he pulls the trigger. It was cocked somehow, but unloaded, luckily. I knew it was unloaded, but not sure how it got cocked.
Same guy shot a hole in the ground a meter in front of himself on hunt, while trying to lower the hammer on his 30-30 when hammer slipped. No safety on. Also bragged to me about shooting a deer at 80 meters when all he could see was a patch of orange through the bush...."But I knew it was a deer, cos I watched it for 5 minutes and could see it breathing"

I don't hunt with him anymore

Point I am making is that even people who have been around firearms for many years can make the most basic errors.

Originally Posted by Pengy

I never. Mentioned the four occasions when the same bloke has suddenly popped up in an area i am hunting when he is supposed to be in another part of the park.
"no sign there or couldnt cross river " are two lame excuses i recall

A ticking timebomb in anyones book.
You can do your best to keep away from unsafe rip, shit and bust hunters. Unfortunately there is no law of stupidity to keep them out of the bush.
Sound similar to the NZDA firearms safety guy down lower SI who recently mistook another hunter for a deer and killed him.
Another reason to hunt with a partner, at least one of you can make it out to call for help

What good sound comments here. A great thread for all newly licenced gun owners to read in entirety as they still don't receive proper hands on training 4 1/2 years on

Originally Posted by Pengy

Anyone know the outcome for the little kiddy ? I hope all good.

I bought a wee semi auto 22 a while back, then while at an `ex` mates place, I thought I would show it to him.
He hunts and has few firearms. Anyway, he doesn't bother to check the state of the rifle, but proceeds to twirl it around above his head while laughing and telling me "its a fcking toy"....then he pulls the trigger. It was cocked somehow, but unloaded, luckily. I knew it was unloaded, but not sure how it got cocked.
Same guy shot a hole in the ground a meter in front of himself on hunt, while trying to lower the hammer on his 30-30 when hammer slipped. No safety on. Also bragged to me about shooting a deer at 80 meters when all he could see was a patch of orange through the bush...."But I knew it was a deer, cos I watched it for 5 minutes and could see it breathing"

I don't hunt with him anymore

Point I am making is that even people who have been around firearms for many years can make the most basic errors.

Wow, that just makes my blood run cold.

I had an instructor deal to me at Burnham when I was 16 for accepting a firearm without asking if it was 'safe' (empty), that sorted me out for life and has kept me and others safe at least in part and I've handed that lesson on to others albeit without the kicking.

Also bragged to me about shooting a deer at 80 meters when all he could see was a patch of orange through the bush...

Doesn't that sound a bit familiar? When the orange patch of deer hair tuned out to be someone's blaze orange hunting cap?