Thread: New Updated Arms Code 2017

I'm pretty sure the good people of Indonesia, The Philippines, South Africa, PNG, Georgia, Honduras, Jamaica, Kenya, Pakistan, Russia, Colombia, Grenada, Kazakhstan, Estonia, Guatemala, Venezuela, Laos, El Salvador and others will be surprised to find they have 100% gun bans.

Especially all the IPSC shooters in those countries who enjoy practical shooting. Not to mention those shooters from New Zealand who have traveled to and shot in those countries.

Some of those countries' firearm laws, Jamaica in particular, are so draconian as to effectively be a 100% ban.

I have been to ranges in Honduras, fun times and if there was a gun ban it wasent aparent

Zimbabwe dose not have a gun ban? Pretty sure you can take your firearm into hunt!
Saint Kitts and Nevis, I've taken a shotgun to. Nice dove shooting was a few years back though.
Would not go again as it was getting a little dangerous then.....St Kitts was!
Switzerland dose have plenty of murders mass shootings it's been posted before.
Those facts aren't real, as how can you trust statistics coming from the likes of Mr Uncle Bob zim he's got more opposition supporters buried in his back garden than Putin

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Those facts aren't real, as how can you trust statistics coming from the likes of Mr Uncle Bob zim he's got more opposition supporters buried in his back garden than Putin

Majority of them were put there by Rhodesian security forces.

Accidentally discharged shotgun shell said to have killed Hamilton man | Stuff.co.nz

So as per new arms code, all steel pipe is now a firearm as per Section 1a
"anything that can be adapted to discharge any shot" etc.

Just want to point out I called this back on page 2 of this thread.

I knew it! This thread is much about supposed changes to the Arms Code 2017 police leaflet, but the same silly error has been there all along in "The Arms Code, 2013" leaflet. With all respect, firearms owners who should have known must have been asleep, or did read the 2013 leaflet.

From "The Arms Code, 2013" (error highlighted with capitals):

" T 1 a) Definition of a firearm
----------------------------------
The Arms Act 1983 defines a firearm as anything from
which any shot, bullet, missile or other projectile can be
discharged by force of explosive.
It includes anything THAT CAN BE ADAPTED so that it can
discharge any shot, bullet, missile or other projectile by
force of explosive.
It also includes anything that for the time being is not
capable of discharging any shot, bullet, missile or other
projectile by force of explosive, but which by it’s completion
or repair would be capable of doing so.

Originally Posted by Cordite

I knew it! This thread is much about supposed changes to the Arms Code 2017 police leaflet, but the same silly error has been there all along in "The Arms Code, 2013" leaflet. With all respect, firearms owners who should have known must have been asleep, or did read the 2013 leaflet.

From "The Arms Code, 2013" (error highlighted with capitals):

" T 1 a) Definition of a firearm
----------------------------------
The Arms Act 1983 defines a firearm as anything from
which any shot, bullet, missile or other projectile can be
discharged by force of explosive.
It includes anything THAT CAN BE ADAPTED so that it can
discharge any shot, bullet, missile or other projectile by
force of explosive.
It also includes anything that for the time being is not
capable of discharging any shot, bullet, missile or other
projectile by force of explosive, but which by it’s completion
or repair would be capable of doing so.

Who cares? The arms code is just a safety manual. Not a legal document.

Originally Posted by Savage1

I think you need to research a little more before posting that kind of rubbish.

All of those countries have 100% gun bans?! Obviously untrue.

I've been to Switzerland many times and know that those two "laws" to be non-existent.

Gun Bans or total prohibition? No but some of the most restrictive are the some of the most violent. I think the point is that violence and murder (including mass killings) is more related to culture than gun laws.

Originally Posted by systolic

Who cares? The arms code is just a safety manual. Not a legal document.

But with the NZ Police's name on it. Looked at one recently?

Not exactly the link I suppose everyone is interested but something to think about.

Cheers

Mac

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._homicide_rate

Originally Posted by PERRISCICABA

Not exactly the link I suppose everyone is interested but something to think about.

Cheers

Mac

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._homicide_rate

delved in a bit more, the site they are obtaining the gun facts from is a bit of an interesting read. Guns in New Zealand
it is no longer being updated until funds allow, but the estimated illicit guns in NZ (as deemed by the UN) seems a bit high to me.

Alpers! Really! All looks good to me, id be fairly positive reading that, Firearms numbers coming down, very few used in suicides and murders, bugger all FAL owners per 100,000 etc.
Make you wonder what all the fuss is about!!

Originally Posted by Skitsokiwi

delved in a bit more, the site they are obtaining the gun facts from is a bit of an interesting read. Guns in New Zealand
it is no longer being updated until funds allow, but the estimated illicit guns in NZ (as deemed by the UN) seems a bit high to me.

A lot of UN mentions in there. The part about standardizing fire arms legislation across the pacific worries me.

Pacific Islands Forum
As a member of the Pacific Islands Forum, New Zealand adopted the March, 2000 Nadi Framework agreement, which aims to harmonise small arm-related legislation across Oceania. In August 2003, the Nadi Framework’s draft model Weapons Control Bill was unanimously accepted for consideration by all 16 member states of the Pacific Islands Forum


I can't see the idiots over in West Island choosing to use our legislation.