Thread: New Updated Arms Code 2017

Originally Posted by Sidney

Sorry got letters instead of numbers... might have caused the lack of clarity a-d = 1-4.....

a) Defined where...?? Just in Statute? The law can be challenged at any stage any time as part of recognised process, one of the basic principles of a free society... how is that subversion? The law is not settled until the court rules. If the police now attempted to apply what they have been told was unlawful by the court - then it could become subversion, but that hasn't happened has it. And the code and any incompetant AO hasn't been established as being that...
NOTE: to subvert is a deliberate policy of breaching the law..

b)Unless illegality is intended, no conspiriters exist... having private meetings does not make people conspiriters.. Point 1 has to be true before this can apply

c)Yes it does, you're own definition requires it..

d)Thats a metaphoric example not involving people. It is not possible for the winds and tide to make agreements..

by the way... show me where secrecy is a requirement?

Completely wrong. The word has been picked up and used by the legal system for a very narrow usage. Again that is not what is being used here. Conspiring is simply to have a secret meeting to formulate a plan to disadvantage another party. IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE ILLEGAL!