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    OUCH

    I know the POLICE have been taking a bit of a hammering lately from a lot of us .myself include ,but just reading stuff where 3 have been charged with manslaughter,right here in jacintas paradise!
    that is a massive boot in the blue nut sack by any measure.
    from the sounds of it Police HQ are wanting their pound of flesh too.

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    It appears to me that they are the victims of a modern PC world. I am not saying that they should not face the charges, I am more just saying that forty years ago they very likely would not have.
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    Well if one of Kotuku's patients dies because he for instance decided to play poker all night instead of doing his rounds, or farm labourer dies because the boss made them use a tractor that he knew was unsafe, they would have the book thrown at them... No difference really.

    The moment police detain someone, they become responsible for that person's wellbeing.
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    Yes but why? Drunk arrested for assault found dead when checked on is the story as I read it. For equivalency in your hypothetical the farm hand would have been pissed and would have culpability for his own actions and Kotuku’s patient would have had to have had something smuggled in.
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    Your inner Geghis Khan is coming out again @Rushy

    Allegedly drunk arrested on suspicion of assault. Last time I checked the courts are supposed to determine punishment, not the cops at the lockup.

    What the article does not go into is if he was potentially assaulted by those cops, or if they locked him up and then went out for a night on the town...

    For them to have been charged I suspect it involved some pretty gross negligence...
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    Ha ha ha ha and I am particularly grumpy today as well. I have had to deal with humans and drive in Auckland traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    It appears to me that they are the victims of a modern PC world. I am not saying that they should not face the charges, I am more just saying that forty years ago they very likely would not have.
    And 40 years ago you'd drive home pissed with your kids on the dashboard, and die from polio.
    Not all change is bad (nor good)

    I certainly think those who take the role of policy enforcers should be accountable (as men, not hiding behind the rank), and doubt any of us know enough facts of this case to make an informed decision one way or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    I have had to deal with humans and drive in Auckland traffic.
    You poor bastatd. No-one deserves that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mimms2 View Post
    And 40 years ago you'd drive home pissed with your kids on the dashboard, and die from polio.
    Not all change is bad (nor good)

    I certainly think those who take the role of policy enforcers should be accountable (as men, not hiding behind the rank), and doubt any of us know enough facts of this case to make an informed decision one way or the other.
    That last paragraph sums it all up - particularly ‘.Not know enough facts of the case’ bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mimms2 View Post
    You poor bastatd. No-one deserves that.
    Agreed, I donít particularly like either of them.
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    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...kNmqjHiXP7FIHo

    Summed up here. The evidence must be very strong for them to bring charges fowards.

    Often they leave as much out of public domain before a court case. Waiting to see what happens.

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    when I heard it today,the skeptic in me thought.....vote grabbing by current lot trying to ride the wave that is going on in states at the moment.......which brings up an interesting point....IF the fella who had neck knelt on was a "Joe Dirt" white trash no hoper, would there have even been a whimper of protest??????I think not.

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    not sure we can make any comment until the facts are established in court. But I do feel for all involved on all sides. A pretty ugly situation.
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    That would do it
    Everytime I go back to Dorkland it gives me the screaming shits ( metaphorically )

    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    Ha ha ha ha and I am particularly grumpy today as well. I have had to deal with humans and drive in Auckland traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebf View Post
    Well if one of Kotuku's patients dies because he for instance decided to play poker all night instead of doing his rounds, or farm labourer dies because the boss made them use a tractor that he knew was unsafe, they would have the book thrown at them... No difference really.

    The moment police detain someone, they become responsible for that person's wellbeing.
    exfucking xcactly and i was nearly killed along with a cop in greymouth when a mad cow wanted to kill herself and I stopped her .Ive seen more fucking suicides and horrible deaths than a lot of people have had hot feeds and I still have nightmares at times wondering if i could have done more to prevent it .Believe me having the Health&Disability commissioner grabbing your nut sack is no fun -yes he wanted me over the latest suicide i was involved in -I politely told em to fuck off they had my nursing notes and written statement.
    alas people in NZ are totally ignorant of the number of medical people whove become casualties due to the reslt at all cost HDCpricks -two colleagues of mine suicided due to this annd i never forgive of forget .

 

 

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