Thread: Police Fire..... Bystander Safety?

Originally Posted by scotty

what he said.... a few years ago a scumbag escaped from custody down wellington way he was armed and had a hostage anyways cop shot him in the leg and he subsequently lost it.
i was told at the time by a cop that it was most likely his sidearm discharged before he had a bead on body mass (still bringing it up to aim) apparently the pistols they were using had a very touchy trigger and it was common even at the range to have premature discharge add to that the stress of the situation ......
i dont have a problem with police being armed but they do need more time at the range so they are more proficient in the use of their firearms...
as for the guy who heard the gunshots and took his daughter out to have a look............then moaned to the media about how they had to duck behind a hedge, .........idiot , he put his daughter in danger no-one else did

I agree

I have no issue with the police having access to firearms when they need them. But I would like to see far more training in how to get the best out them when the situation calls for it. Practise, practise, practise. Once it is muscle memory, then they can concentrate on stopping the situation and not have to think about what is happening in their hands. It would be a far better use of Police funding than most of Cahills wish lists....

Originally Posted by timattalon

I agree

I have no issue with the police having access to firearms when they need them. But I would like to see far more training in how to get the best out them when the situation calls for it. Practise, practise, practise. Once it is muscle memory, then they can concentrate on stopping the situation and not have to think about what is happening in their hands. It would be a far better use of Police funding than most of Cahills wish lists....

If all the cops are doing gun training, who will deal with the robberies, domestics and mentals?

@systolic Wanna have a cup of tea some time? ill bring some scones. i'd like to see if you are big and green.

Originally Posted by systolic

If all the cops are doing gun training, who will deal with the robberies, domestics and mentals?

Sweet, give em guns and stuff all training? you are a damn fool @systolic.

Originally Posted by 40mm

Sweet, give em guns and stuff all training? you are a damn fool @systolic.

So who misses out when the cops are doing all this extra training with guns?

Half the time when I go into the local station for a permit or to get a gun sighted, there's nobody there except the office lady.

More training time on something most will never use has to come at someone else's cost.

"Sorry you your house got robbed. But the robbery squad are all at training this week. And next week they're taking annual leave. We could come around for a look on the 15th, after lunch sometime. That any good to you?"

"The traffic division can't come to your car accident because the only cop working is already at another one. The other guys are at training every Thursday."

Originally Posted by systolic

So who misses out when the cops are doing all this extra training with guns?

Half the time when I go into the local station for a permit or to get a gun sighted, there's nobody there except the office lady.

More training time on something most will never use has to come at someone else's cost.

"Sorry you your house got robbed. But the robbery squad are all at training this week. And next week they're taking annual leave. We could come around for a look on the 15th, after lunch sometime. That any good to you?"

"The traffic division can't come to your car accident because the only cop working is already at another one. The other guys are at training every Thursday."

Einstein.

Originally Posted by systolic

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"Sorry you your house got robbed. But the robbery squad are all at training this week. And next week they're taking annual leave. We could come around for a look on the 15th, after lunch sometime. That any good to you?"

"The traffic division can't come to your car accident because the only cop working is already at another one. The other guys are at training every Thursday."

Isn't that what happens now anyway??

Originally Posted by systolic

If all the cops are doing gun training, who will deal with the robberies, domestics and mentals?

If they could shoot accurately and safely, maybe be we could allow them to kill more of these scum bags, without harm to others, Chris would be happy? No he wouldnt hes an out of his depth dickhead

Originally Posted by systolic

If all the cops are doing gun training, who will deal with the robberies, domestics and mentals?

What planet are you from? Ill spell it out for you....They wont all fit on the gun range at the same time so they will have to take turns, thus any who are not shooting can go to the incident........

In all seriousness, they maintain training and information, physical training etc all while on the job. So squeeze in a couple hours here and there for firearms training on a regular basis. My 10 year old nephew understood the concept.

Originally Posted by timattalon

What planet are you from? Ill spell it out for you....They wont all fit on the gun range at the same time so they will have to take turns, thus any who are not shooting can go to the incident........

In all seriousness, they maintain training and information, physical training etc all while on the job. So squeeze in a couple hours here and there for firearms training on a regular basis. My 10 year old nephew understood the concept.

Gold

We have three cops at our pistol club that train on their own time with their own funds, And they are damn good shots I am happy to have them in my neighbour hood
It is pity that more of them don't join Pistol clubs or the Deerstalkers to improve their skills, maybe the NZPA and NZDA should look into encouraging them to join with reduced fees

Originally Posted by shooternz

We have three cops at our pistol club that train on their own time with their own funds, And they are damn good shots I am happy to have them in my neighbour hood
It is pity that more of them don't join Pistol clubs or the Deerstalkers to improve their skills, maybe the NZPA and NZDA should look into encouraging them to join with reduced fees

I am not 100% sure how accurate this is but I was told it is sort of discouraged for them to be members of gun clubs and the like.
I grew up with 2 of our local cops. Both in AOS and one used to be a club member. Not sure why he isint any longer.
The other when finished training comes down for a nosey if I am or others are there and has a play. Seems very interested yet when asked to join changes subject. Would be good to have them as members.


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Originally Posted by R93

I am not 100% sure how accurate this is but I was told it is sort of discouraged for them to be members of gun clubs and the like.
I grew up with 2 of our local cops. Both in AOS and one used to be a club member. Not sure why he isint any longer.
The other when finished training comes down for a nosey if I am or others are there and has a play. Seems very interested yet when asked to join changes subject. Would be good to have them as members.


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We had a serving officer as our president a number of years ago....and we are a fairly big club

Originally Posted by shooternz

We have three cops at our pistol club that train on their own time with their own funds, And they are damn good shots I am happy to have them in my neighbour hood
It is pity that more of them don't join Pistol clubs or the Deerstalkers to improve their skills, maybe the NZPA and NZDA should look into encouraging them to join with reduced fees

They get discounted fees at ASC, and at least one of our top trainers offers free one-to-one training. On one induction course I took, 5 of the 7 attending were police.

Originally Posted by Tommy

They get discounted fees at ASC, and at least one of our top trainers offers free one-to-one training. On one induction course I took, 5 of the 7 attending were police.

Why do they need discounted fees?

Surely they could afford to pay full price with all the money they save from only having to pay half price at McDonald's.