Thread: Response to the Law and Order Select committee

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

Abysmal A-Cat security is rampant, particularly among the older generation. In many ways you can't blame them as their flimsy MDF and similar wooden gun cabinets with gaps and a tiny lock passed muster ten years ago and prior. One senior gentleman said to me today, "I've had this gun safe for thirty years and it's done the job so I don't see why I should have to change it". His gun cabinet would take even the dumbest of thieves about twenty seconds to break open. Of course, he's never had the misfortune of being burgled.

Vetting personal need solid, straight forward standards that aren't open to interpretation for A-Cat security. The only way to achieve that is to make a law change that everyone understands. Counting on common sense is a lost cause because many people don't possess it.

Like I already said, we do not need more legislation. Legislation is not the answer to everything. Like you said yourself, the inspectors need easy to understand guidelines that make it clear that a shitty wooden box wouldn't be okay.

I will note that I have a friend who made a safe out of wood and some brick that goes on the wall behind a fire place and I have no doubt it would have been harder to get into than some A category safes sold commercially. (He replaced this as soon as he could afford to with an E category compliant safe even though he has no endorsements).

Therefore I don't think it's okay to just outright ban the use of wood itself.

Originally Posted by Jexla

Like I already said, we do not need more legislation. Legislation is not the answer to everything. Like you said yourself, the inspectors need easy to understand guidelines that make it clear that a shitty wooden box wouldn't be okay.

I will note that I have a friend who made a safe out of wood and some brick that goes on the wall behind a fire place and I have no doubt it would have been harder to get into than some A category safes sold commercially. (He replaced this as soon as he could afford to with an E category compliant safe even though he has no endorsements).

Therefore I don't think it's okay to just outright ban the use of wood itself.

There seems to be about one decent wooden gun cabinet for about every forty or more crap ones. Therein lies the problem. I'm pretty sure that any law change made for A-Cat security re gun cabinets will require a construction of a minimum of 2mm mild steel. Regarding security gun racks nearly all I've come across offer good security against opportunistic thieves.