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Years ago when I first got my license, I was shooting on a friends farm out at Whitford (backs onto forest) with my .22 (shooting subs).
Took a shot on a running hare (shooting away from forest), missed, a round hit a wire fence, did almost a 135 degree turn and went back over my head into the forest.
No worries I thought (after the scare to me) until a mounbtain biker came out 30 min later and accused me of shooting at him.
He calmed down once I told him what had happened, but I still could have been in the sh*t.
Well I guess you can point the pill in the direction you want it to go, weather it gets there is another thing
Nothing shows richochet's better than tracer... I couldnt believe the volume of them bouncing - twas a fairly steep backstop too! man, did they fly in all directions, pretty much covered all the points on the clock - good thing we were in the open of course... .303, .308... not .22, which are notorious for bouncing... must see if i have some vid..
One attempt years ago to cull sheep, had one bounce.. Gave me the shits!
And have had to help pay for a paint job on a bonnet and a replacement window - Chinese Ball ammo.
Not all of what you are seeing with tracer is what it seems. The the tracer compound and molten lead come out of the bum when it impacts and can and will fly any where while the actual projectile stays put a lot of the time.
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fair comment on the molten parts - though revisting the video of said sporting event - im pretty sure some are flying away, pretty quickly!! Damn, that was a good weekend!!! sigh...
I gotta get me one of these, incl the chopper.
http://youtu.be/3EpHi0kKqsU
Not sure if I could afford to actually use it but way cool.
[QUOTE=mikee;113030]Like this you mean..........video=youtube_share;0ABGIJwiGBc]http://youtu.be/0ABGIJwiGBc[/video
Well bugger me! I always have considered a ricochet could not come back to the point of origin, but you have just corrected me.
Gau Gattiling guns are where it's at thats for sure.
Some of the ordanance for the GAU-8 costs over $30us/round .... work that out at 4000 rounds/minute.
The can also go through a tonne of ammo in a few short minutes.
Be bloody awesome to have a go with a few 10 second busts while hanging out of the chopper.
Well this Ricochet that cost a mans eye seem a bit far fetched,my opinion only.
Shot ricochet off duck blamed for hunter losing an eye | Stuff.co.nz
Far fetched but believable considering it was steel shot and the evidence or lack of it, by no other pellet strikes to the immediate area.
On 1 news now.
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I personally saw a fellow hunter get hit by two lead pellets ricocheted off a gooses wings. One went through his ear leaving a nice hole and the other lodged just under his rib cage.
i was hit by a 22lr ricochet. it bloody hurts i can tell you
Steel shot is probably the worst I have seen. Try a low angle shot off your pond next time (Obviously only if safe).
We used to shoot bowling pins at three gun with the shotgun. Had to stop doing it because of steel shot bouncing back and hitting the shooter. Lead seemed to be ok but it wasn't worth the risk.
Got hit on the cheek a couple of weeks ago shooting black powder with a few at the range, steel gongs, chunk of lead hit me on the cheek, no damage, but it stung a little. Gotta wear glasses at the range!!:(
Interesting about the shot not being round maybe that's why iv been missing ! , id say the bloke getting hit is 2 fold 1 the ricochet & 2 having the maimai,s so close 47 meters fark that.
Ive been hit by airgun pellet that hit wooden target at 25 yards then came back to us...very soft lead they are too.
head shot big ram in woolshed with .12ga solid and the plurry thing bounced all around the walls after dealing to the silly baabaas brains coming to rest close to my leg....funny how it didnt fall through grating. didnt do that again,faaarkin hard on the ears too,took to smacking them on the noggin with the emery spanner after that.lol.
Ive witnessed steel shot rattle off the wing feathers of swans at ellesmere-most bloody disconcerting-hoped they'd come a little closer so i could use the shotty like a softball bat and clobber em outta the sky -no such luck.
seen more than one.22 screech off into the wild blue yonder having struck water or stones. definitely grundies filling i must say.
working in the butts details at wes tmelton rifle range in my TF army days was also buttock clenching when rounds smashed into the concrete cover before slamming through fig11 targets sideways or as happened a couple of times smashing it in half with the top rapidly landing on my swede!!
One thing I must say is I haven't had a ricochet with 17 grain HP .17hmr yet. Those little pills seem to explode on a blade of grass!
I've always wanted to do some testing on how explosive 17hmr, in respect to it's tendency to ricochet (or not).
I wonder if the Barnes Varmint Grenade bullets ever ricochet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSe8N0jBXhs
I fire my 17hmr at a rabbit about 100 metres away, down hill from the bipod one day. Lined it up, bang, no reaction, no sign of ground strike, fired a second, same result. Then realised there was the odd piece of dry grass in the firing line, close to the barrel. Cleared the way and third shot, dead rabbit. I think the projectile exploded on hitting the grass? After two shots a no reaction, I figure they didn't get ther?
Yep I have managed to break fence wire with it on a few occasions, but you hear that!
gentlemen _Im a great fan of the A10 warthog as a solution to all hunting dilemmas.Expensive -yes ill grant you that ,but where else can you get a weapon that tags ,shags and bags em all in one operation. OOOOOOOOHShit -hold on CAA knocking on my front door:psychotic:
I got my first one a couple months ago, I was about 20 degrees to the side and behing someone shooting steel with their 38 super race gun. So I was probably 25M from steel. Got me right of the left pec a couple centimeters from the blimmin nipple :) Hurt like hell but at least I could consider myself lucky it wasn't a tad over.
Now this has appeared Fish and Game manager defends report saying shot can ricochet off ducks | Stuff.co.nz
Looking at replacing 50 metre swinging gongs at the Black Power range, had a piece of 1" bisaloy on trial last shoot, hung on two shackles, no chain. Shooting a 223 at it, there was a lack of movement on hitting and real ricochet danger. Current gongs dor BP shooting are swung off horizontal galv pipe, approx 4" long hinge to plate, these swing well and deflect projectile downwards. Anybody got any other ideas to stop the boredom?
All steel targets should be BIS500/AR500, arranged so that the impact face is square to the shooting position, and leaning forward at the top of the target, 20deg off vertical, to ensure that the bullet splatter is directed towards the ground and minimise the chance of a ricochet. Keep bullet speed (regardless of calibre) below 900m/sec if you want to keep your plates in good condition (not a problem for black powder)
To stop boredom:
1. stop shooting black powder (rate of fire is way too slow to be fun)
2. use live reactive targets (we need to import and release some ground hogs and some Meerkats!)
I read that with interest until #1. #2 we use live pigeons for shotgun in the avo!
Under 900 FPS is a bit ask, my double does 1900 FPS and the 45/70 gets up there.
Thanks for the help on the above. :thumbsup:
Sorry see your a metric man, just trebbled my speed!
Will take this to the range and try it. 50 metres is far for stuff to come back!
No typo. I had (but currently cannot find ....??) a very detailed report from trials done in the USA on AR500 plate damage done with various caliber and projectile design.
The conclusion was that the caliber and bullet design had little to do with the level of plate damage, it was all about speed. They discovered that a .223 with a 50gr PSP projectile traveling at over 3,200fps was more damaging to the surface of the target than the likes of a 140gr .308 doing 2,700fps. The most damage from what they tested on the day was a .22-250 with 50gr doing 3,700's fps.
Only exception to this was larger caliber, heavy round nose projectiles that dented the plate rather than cratered it as the high speed projectiles did.
So, rule of thumb, don't let anyone shoot at your AR500 plate with anything with a MV above 3,000fps (900m/s round figures).
When shooting pure lead projectiles at 1000 + FPS , nobody uses metres? Suppose dressmakers among us would use CMs?
Splatter of the projectiles sometimes sees small fragments of lead slowly coming back, you can watch them. They usually do not get back 50 metres unles in a high convolute. Heavy plates do not swing and are hard to see the hit on for old broken buggers like use, they don't seem to ring like with jacketed projectiles.