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Thread: Should movie stars be allowed to outsource personal responsibility?

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    Quote…. However, if it had happened in NZ,…….. well Adam ,it’s not in kiwi

    2ndly…… the fact is ,this was a poorly run,managed operation either way you look at it.The carelessness,and attitudes either for a kiwi or yank run operation were poor at best……… either way ,a women lost her life!!!
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    According to my mate…. To be the “Armourer”… requires no “real” licence…. .. other than previous experience,word of mouth,previous positions with other projects etc……. I found that hard to believe me ,but he assured me this was the case….. this position requires no degrees,licenses,titles,etc etc etc…… I still trying to find out if that’s correct or not
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    So the armorers law team is suggesting a livey somehow ended up in a box of dummy rounds. Interesting that the livey just happened to be one of those grabbed to be loaded, and then go into the chamber that went under the hammer, what are the odds...? Next there will be a theory that there was tension between the AD and someone else on set and that he slipped the livey in before he gave the gun to Baldwin... This'll make a classic whodunnit movie one day...
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    The whole thing is such a joke ..,there’s a liar in every corner
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishoot10s View Post
    So the armorers law team is suggesting a livey somehow ended up in a box of dummy rounds. Interesting that the livey just happened to be one of those grabbed to be loaded, and then go into the chamber that went under the hammer, what are the odds...? Next there will be a theory that there was tension between the AD and someone else on set and that he slipped the livey in before he gave the gun to Baldwin... This'll make a classic whodunnit movie one day...
    OR: create a conspiracy theory!
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    NB…. Kiwi-Adam… apologies if my post came across as being a ..”cock”… not implied… .my post was not to insinuate anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by A330driver View Post
    ….as sad as this situation is….. Baldwin is an arsehole…. Anti-gun advocate for years….. if he’d taken the time to learn firearm safety this may of not happened

    I have a mate who works on these movie sets,… sparky,chippee,jack of all trades…has worked this stuff for 30 years.He was telling me the previous crew,armorers etc walked off this job,…. Safety issues,poor practices etc….. the new lot considered scabs!!!…..Baldwin has a history of poor mgt decisions,his self importance is a joke
    Yes, thd hypocrisy of the antis is common. Don't like this because I don't understand it. Baldwin clearly doesn't understand safe handling, here cook doesn't even understand what makes up a bullet. Willfully ignorant and on a crusade

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    That's meant to be hera cook. Forum having a tantrum and not letting me edit.

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    I wonder if he would have taken a little more care if he was handed a razor sharp sword or asked to drive a car for a stunt, he would have asked for some training for those.
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    Watch this space more law suits will happen against Mr Baldwin which might make him bankrupt unless he was covered by insurance. A civil suit does not allow off loading of liability against the plaintiff especially from the deceased's family. Mr Trump will be grinning.
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    The lawyer for the directors assistant came out and stated that checking firearms was in fact NOT in his contract..... oops. Wasn't that AB's entire argument? By blaming Hall, he deferred the blame away from the armourer. Kinda leaves just him....

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    There were/are actually news stories going around where Baldwin was being set up by NRA /Trump supporter types.
    Funny that I only saw them a couple days ago and now can't find links.

    Almost like those media outlets realized how ridiculous that is.

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    oh yeah i saw some of those. BS stories about somebody trying to sabotage the movie. Only a cockroach lawyer could create such crap! This is the same thing as Brandon Lee on 'the crow' i reckon.
    The prop department will have been making blanks from real ammo (to make it look real) and they've stuffed up and missed one. Nobody will have been out 'plinking'.
    Not without everyone on the set knowing because its in the middle of nowhere. Nobody has said people were out taking target practice so far except for media speculating.

    Yet all this attention is happening because of Baldwins 'political views' according to his brother. Could it be because his personal laziness cost a person's life? I'm thinking that's actually it

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    To my understanding prop guns are supposed to be blank firing guns. Why was he handed a live firing gun?

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    Its safe to assume that Baldwin himself approved the use of a real single action, real pistol over using CGI.

 

 

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