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    Ethics are not up to the individual, in hunting or in anything else. That is the whole point of them. I think there is a complete misunderstanding of Jose Ortega Y Gasset going on here:

    The full quote related to ethics and hunting :

    The essence of hunting or fishing involves a complete code of ethics of the most distinguished design. The sportsman who accepts the sporting code of ethics keeps his commandments in the greatest solitude with no witnesses or audience other than the sharp peaks of the mountain, the stern oak and the passing animal.


    The point is not that hunting ethics is up to the individual, but rather the individual keeps his ethics even when he has no witnesses to hold him to them.


    You immoral Heathens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Duxbury View Post
    Ethics are not up to the individual, in hunting or in anything else. That is the whole point of them. I think there is a complete misunderstanding of Jose Ortega Y Gasset going on here:

    The full quote related to ethics and hunting :

    The essence of hunting or fishing involves a complete code of ethics of the most distinguished design. The sportsman who accepts the sporting code of ethics keeps his commandments in the greatest solitude with no witnesses or audience other than the sharp peaks of the mountain, the stern oak and the passing animal.


    The point is not that hunting ethics is up to the individual, but rather the individual keeps his ethics even when he has no witnesses to hold him to them.


    You immoral Heathens.
    Im not so lacking in independence and judgement that I will allow my hunting ethical decisions to be led by a collection of edicts from people I neither know or who's judgement I might not respect. Your friend Duxbury would have agreed with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    Im not so lacking in independence and judgement that I will allow my hunting ethical decisions to be led by a collection of edicts from people I neither know or who's judgement I might not respect. Your friend Duxbury would have agreed with me.
    That seems like an unusually libertarian-esque opinion from you Mr Tahr
    You're learning!
    Sorry, just being cheeky
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    Im not so lacking in independence and judgement that I will allow my hunting ethical decisions to be led by a collection of edicts from people I neither know or who's judgement I might not respect. Your friend Duxbury would have agreed with me.
    And yet, if everyone did that in society, we end up living in a Mad Max movie. We elders must lead by example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Duxbury View Post
    And yet, if everyone did that in society, we end up living in a Mad Max movie. We elders must lead by example.
    I’m over the tyranny of the collective trying to control my recreation. They can but out. If something is legal then it falls to my individual choices on how I proceed.
    And I will worry about what elders do when I become one.
    The collective conscience of society doesn’t seem to be doing too well at present.

    I’m going to advance into the future taking advantage of what ever technology I choose to use. Including if required, a pace maker.
    Last edited by Tahr; 10-09-2024 at 10:09 AM.
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