What on earth is she doing?

Have a look at the news footage of the dunedin shooting there is footage of a police officer "fumbling" with a rifle, it looks like she is trying to clear it but doesnt know how to. Not a good look that.

saw that ,..... seemed a bit odd , but only just caught it

Link? What channel?

This thread is useless without a link.

tv1 news tonight ....

Cant be, they are highly trained professionals remember.

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Cant be, they are highly trained professionals remember.

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I know what your saying, but if some off these bloody so called hunters keep shooting them selfs or there mates I'm not sure it's going to mean as much. We will all be classified as dangerous firearms users.

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Cant be, they are highly trained professionals remember.

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ba ha ha ha ha ha ha

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We will all be classified as dangerous firearms users.

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We are anyway. I once had a nice policeman say to me (20 years ago at a shooting club no less ) "that everyones a criminal just we haven't caught you yet".
Attitudes like that along with some spectacular cockups and other stuff (Louise Nickolas for example) are the reason in my opinion they have lost the respect and trust of the people they supposed to serve

What Dunedin shooting ?

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What Dunedin shooting ?

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maybe this one Woman found dead in house north of Dunedin, man critically injured nearby | Stuff.co.nz

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Yes and this is why all frontline cops should be armed:ORLY::wtfsmilie:

Thanks mikee , I didn't know anything about it, it's not far from here really.

Sounds like bush drills. Yup. Give yourself an uppercut Miss.

She was locking the bolt back while unloading the rifle.

Quite clear if you know how an AR15 works.

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She was locking the bolt back while unloading the rifle.

Quite clear if you know how an AR15 works.

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Nope, she's flailing about with not a single clue. Left hand holding the handguard, right hand flapping around the ejection port. She has absolutely no business touching that rifle.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/ondemand/one-...6pm/08-03-2016

About the 6 min 45 mark is the bit in question.

oh wow!

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Did I detect a wee note of sarcyness there Viet???? Would you like me to list ALL the mishandling of firearms by our highly trained police persons that I'm aware of right from when the Glocks were first issued????

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We are anyway. I once had a nice policeman say to me (20 years ago at a shooting club no less ) "that everyones a criminal just we haven't caught you yet".
Attitudes like that along with some spectacular cockups and other stuff (Louise Nickolas for example) are the reason in my opinion they have lost the respect and trust of the people they supposed to serve

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I f you look up the oath( it is online apparently) that they ALL took at the police college and kept it in mind when you're being confronted/interviewed by them, you could politely remind the obnoxious type of the oath that he/she swore to uphold!!!! Sort of levels the playing field a bit!!!!

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Did I detect a wee note of sarcyness there Viet???? Would you like me to list ALL the mishandling of firearms by our highly trained police persons that I'm aware of right from when the Glocks were first issued????

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Yes and yes!

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She was locking the bolt back while unloading the rifle.

Quite clear if you know how an AR15 works.

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@systolic wouldn't it be courtesy to atleast introduce yourself first before poking for your 1st & 2nd post?

http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...2/index44.html

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Yes and yes!

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Do you want the list on the forum or as a PM????? It's quite a long one & the incidents are only the one's I can recall!!!!! ( memory's going eh??)

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@systolic wouldn't it be courtesy to atleast introduce yourself first before poking for your 1st & 2nd post?

http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...2/index44.html

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Now be kind there Sasqu. The chap may need a bit of councelling & a brain re-boot?????:P

She was doing the two physical and two visual checks of the magazine well and chamber, as she was trained to.

It's amazing how people can form such strong opinions over a persons handling of a firearm from a two second clip. I assume such people don't know the Police TOETS for the M4.

Send it to Minister Collins, maybe she should start there!!
I was filming an armed bank robbery aftermath in CHCH a few years ago and on clearing her Glock the Police woman was so nervous she actually accidentally undid the leg holster and dropped the whole lot on the ground.
There was an outcry about them all holding firearms licenses a few years ago but that seems to have died.
Do they or are they exempt?
They readily admit they don't have enough training themselves and some actually hate firearms and are not comfortable with them, yet they are turned out armed to incidents. Their fault?

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Send it to Minister Collins, maybe she should start there!!
I was filming an armed bank robbery aftermath in CHCH a few years ago and on clearing her Glock the Police woman was so nervous she actually accidentally undid the leg holster and dropped the whole lot on the ground.
There was an outcry about them all holding firearms licenses a few years ago but that seems to have died.
Do they or are they exempt?
They readily admit they don't have enough training themselves and some actually hate firearms and are not comfortable with them, yet they are turned out armed to incidents. Their fault?

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Police are exempt from having to have firearms licences during duty (obviously)

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She was doing the two physical and two visual checks of the magazine well and chamber, as she was trained to.

It's amazing how people can form such strong opinions over a persons handling of a firearm from a two second clip. I assume such people don't know the Police TOETS for the M4.

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Whilst it looks funny, I guess if that's what you're told to do to clear it then that's what you do, isn't it?

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Did I detect a wee note of sarcyness there Viet???? Would you like me to list ALL the mishandling of firearms by our highly trained police persons that I'm aware of right from when the Glocks were first issued????

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Vietn, You haven't replied. Yes or no?????

OOPS, I see that you did. Sorry about that Chief. Online or PM?????:yaeh am not durnk:

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That might be fine, but operating in the public arena - if you look like you know what you are doing then you obviously do. If you look like you're fluffing around with no clue then that is the image you portray.

If you are going to do a manual-of-arms condition and operational status check of your weapon, then bloody do it don't pat the thing and then rub the dust off it like you've escaped from the kitchen and have just remembered you haven't finished wiping the bench.

Possibly correct action, but visually poor form. And, allowed the outfit's training level to be called into question leading me back to my statement No1. So, final score = FAIL.

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"if you look like you know what you are doing then you obviously do". Really? Where do I begin on such a dumb post. If it's safe and functional then who gives a f^%k how it looks.

"possibly correct action" that part says it all, you don't know what she's doing, either because you haven't seen a long enough clip or you don't know the action yourself and don't know what you're looking at. Do you know what the Police TOETS are?

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Police are exempt from having to have firearms licences during duty (obviously)

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now thats criminal having access to weapons we cant except under the strictest controls and security.
and what they dont even have to past the golden rules or written test???
another example of whats made them untrusted and a bit unrespecrted ''do as i say not as i do''

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now thats criminal having access to weapons we cant except under the strictest controls and security.
and what they dont even have to past the golden rules or written test???
another example of whats made them untrusted and a bit unrespecrted ''do as i say not as i do''

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But they have to undergo two weeks of training, which does include a written test (which is far more involved than the MSC test) and re-cert yearly. Police have 'golden rules' but only four of them.

Another example of people making assumptions.

I would imagine that Police testing of elementary training skills is as comprehensive and structured as I experienced with weapons handling in the army forty five years ago. The perception that just because a police person or soldier does not have a firearms licence then they cannot be competent is interesting but hardly relevant given that the individual policeman/woman or soldier did not make the rule that they are subject to.

Yep

The probable truth is that the general public wouldn't think the officer was doing anything with her firearm that warrants any kind of criticism, as purported by some in this thread. That's if they even cared to start with.