I have a pump action shotgun I have never used and noticed that there is a Shotgun shoot at my local nzda range.
Apart from loading 2 shells anyone had nay issues with them?
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I have a pump action shotgun I have never used and noticed that there is a Shotgun shoot at my local nzda range.
Apart from loading 2 shells anyone had nay issues with them?
There isnt a clay target that cant be broken by a pump shotgun as long as the target is in sensible range and is presented normally and sensibly.
But you are handicapping yourself in regards to the second follow up shot if the need is there or the rules allow it .
just go for it
Only way to work around the limitation of not having a second tighter choke is to be very fast.
Allow yourself no time to hesitate.
I use the TLAR system of aiming.
TLAR = That Looks About Right.
many of theearly trick shooters used a pump shotgun...with good reason...when you get used to them they are nearly as fast as a semi,and the micro pause between shots gives you time to readjust aim.... them clays break just fine n dandy.if you have only cylinder choke you will need to shoot fast,if only full choke let em get out a bit.
Nothing wrong with using a pump to start off with. If you get into it look at getting an under over. What length barrel is your pump?
I am hoping it will be a casual shoot. I should check.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ground Control
True. It is just what I have and haven't really thought of getting a double barrel as to be honest I've never used the pump.
Bush goats on private land will be on the cards after the long weekend.
I don't even know if it choked. I'll have a look.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
I haven't measured. It is a ranger 870. Probably the 20 inch model.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve123
20inch:O_O: you will want a tight choke and good ear protection.
With that short a barrel you will need to really push the barrel to get it to swing.
Of my two shotguns one is 28 (my Winchester pigeon grade) this has skeet barrels both open choked.
My SO4 Beretta has 30 inch barrels with multi chokes. Not that I change them I run improved and modified. Get very good range out of this won the high tower challenge the other day with a 60 yard shot.
So you will need to keep yourself close to the target 40 would be max with clay loads.
But as said above crack on. Practice is always good.:thumbsup:
I’ve tried a few Pumps actions back when I was a kid. But never got on with them. Might have been to do with fit as my perfect setup is a lot of cast:O_O: looks like the stock has been dent right over:D
If you're looking for a little speed and efficiency, try pulling rearward gently on the pump handle as you fire.
The action will unlock after the shot and the recoil plus your rearward pull will help bring the gun out of battery, and eject the empty case swiftly.
Done right, it will mean a slightly faster 2nd shot.
Give it a go, Clays are a lot of fun. Are you going to be shooting tripples (going away from you) or sporting(all sorts of freaky shit)? A short barreled shotty is really only good for slugs or 3 gun type shooting though. Try to get a 28" barrel next time as you get tighter patterns and they swing better through the target ....clays, birds and bunnies.
For some fun or practice they are absolutely fine, only downside is fast double etc but not a biggy.
I have grade 5 plugs and muffs. Which I wear all the time at the range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideshow
I will keep the 40 metres in mind.
I have never shot it. I shot a dirty old baikal. But I missed the parries.
I will keep that in mind :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Headroom
I have absolutely no clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve123
I have no pond or bunnies so it is just a safe queen. The goats may have some trouble though :)
DIRTY OLD BAKAIL......wash thy mouth out young man...........
for goats...see if you can find some #7 buckshot as well as the usual #00 it contains 27 x 22calibre balls Vs 9x.32cal
Very popular in the US for trap and skeet. The famous Winchester Model 12 was made in trap and skeet models. A well-practiced shooter can fire them as fast as a semi or OU. I have been a pump user since I was a teenager in the 1960's.
First shotgun I owned was a single barrel "Bakaiel" spelling might be wrong.I've had pump shot guns since mossberg,maverick,escort and now the akkar I do bloody well at the gun clubs.If my first shot doesn't break the clay second shot usually smashes the clays much to the amazement of onlookers.Go for it!
I can empty 8 shots before Jacinda interrupted in under 8 seconds with a pump gun:thumbsup:
Mouth wash!? That's what baltika beer is for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
I have number 4's and #00
Will need to check the pattern.
I have some Italian gold medal something or rather. They were cheap. 80 bucks for a big box of 200 or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by berg243
That's all the encouragement I need :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dundee
mate shoots a20g p/a and i can assure you clays quail hares rabbits geese or ducks -all have fallen regularly to it.me 12g s/a x2 o/ux1 sxs x1 and i use em all on clays depending on my mood and which mastes operating the trap.three of us have our own traps.
shot a session recent;ly with GSPFusing 36gmno3steel (only ammo ihad on me. that wee baikal o/u she loved it the wee sexy lass!
My Baikal U/O rocks !......and Fiochi buck-shot, had the best stopping-power of all the brands we tried, on goats and pigs, through a mossberg-equivalent of yours. Are you sure you want to 'spray' the goats ? a days marination = amazing curry
I will never forget a sporting clays shoot where a guy won with a Rem 870, he beat people with very fancy u/o and semis. I was using a mossberg 500 and did ok.
Know of any modern pump action that can/will slam fire like the old Winchester trenchgun?Quote:
Originally Posted by gundoc
My 308 is too big for the tiny block they're on. 223 is a no go.Quote:
Originally Posted by rewa
22 mag takes too long to kill and I didn't like having to dump a few rounds into them.
IAC Norinco 97 will slam fire. Upper Hutt gun shop bring them in for the CAS shootersQuote:
Originally Posted by Cordite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bx6haCuD0E
I've been shooting at 'going away' clays for years with a Gun City 18 1/2" barrel 870 Remmy clone with a cylinder bore and peep sights. Great fun gun with 71/2 shot and even better with all manner of slugs. The one thing I personally wouldn't do is shoot at goats with any gauge shot besides solids. You'll be back to peppering the poor sods again and that's never good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
On my Mossberg 500 if you have any weight at all on the fore end ( pump handle LOL) it doesn't work. I believe the Winchester 1200 types do though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Headroom
Hit them with the first shot and you are sweet. I have always had a go with my 500 just before ducks since the steel thing came in otherwise I would've stuck with the A5 for everything. Bit too full for clays but if I did my bit is was fine. Not so much nowadays.
Tried it at the local gun club and had a whisper that it wasn't legal at the club anymore but not sure if it was the new rules maybe-its still legal under the new definitions-and I did use it at NZCTA clubs years ago with no dramas. He still let me shoot so maybe the new anti evil gun law interpretations?
@gundoc there fixed it for ya. I'm sure you have. Stay at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundoc
just don't use buck shot & you will be fineQuote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
.22 hornet is perfect for goats, in your situation, not much help if you havent got access to one I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
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Originally Posted by Boaraxa
Nope. No plans or money for one.Quote:
Originally Posted by rewa
I believe there was a design change to the Ithaca mod 37 in the 60's or 70's due to liability and insurance etc. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a modern design or copy of an old model with that feature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordite