Thread: Bracco Italiano

Originally Posted by Ruff

This is a gundog forum, that makes it diametrically opposed to ANYTHING to do with show dogs. Mentioning show dogs in here is like mentioning porch chop recipes in a synagogue!

And yet YOU were the one to mention them .... go figure ...

Originally Posted by EeeBees

I love the European system where there is no prejudice of a working dog being in the ring ... he has to get an Excellent rating in the show ring to gain his Trialler status ... no matter how brilliant he is in the field ... which keeps the conformation, the allure both correct for the breed.

No breed has ever been improved in any way, conformation or otherwise, by being in a NZ show ring. The show ring has been, unarguably, to the detriment of any breed that had the stupidity to walk into it.

I see it the other way. I think every show dog must place in a trial before it can be bred

Originally Posted by Pointer

I see it the other way. I think every show dog must place in a trial before it can be bred

Not too mention be allergy free

Originally Posted by mikee

Not too mention be allergy free

Kick ya dogs outside to live and you may just fix that issue bro.

Originally Posted by kawhia

Kick ya dogs outside to live and you may just fix that issue bro.

The issues is outside, we have i nailed down to pollen , pine pollen in particular. We have rather a lot of it and it coats almost everything. Now their skin has healed up after stopping the scratching things are better and improving.

Originally Posted by mikee

The issues is outside, we have i nailed down to pollen , pine pollen in particular. We have rather a lot of it and it coats almost everything. Now their skin has healed up after stopping the scratching things are better and improving.

These things are usually genetic issues. Until today i have never heard of a dog having any reaction to pollen.

Originally Posted by Pointer

I see it the other way. I think every show dog must place in a trial before it can be bred

Under Fci to be a champ they must have done our version of a qc.
The one thing stopping nzkc from full Fci registration I believe.

And every Trial dog must be placed in a show before it is bred from,

kawhia, are you referring to the TAN and REEP ... Tests d'Aptitudes Naturelles and the Rapport en Eau Profonde (water test) which is for dogs up to two years old (I do not know the German translation for these tests)... dogs here can be awarded a QC over two years of age ... I do not believe we can make real comparisons between these tests with any great certainty ...

Originally Posted by EeeBees

kawhia, are you referring to the TAN and REEP ... Tests d'Aptitudes Naturelles and the Rapport en Eau Profonde (water test) which is for dogs up to two years old (I do not know the German translation for these tests)... dogs here can be awarded a QC over two years of age ... I do not believe we can make real comparisons between these tests with any great certainty ...

That is the French test, German prufungs are under the jghv which like the French system all comes under the FCI and all state a test/trial requirement... I think we should make real comparisons with our own dogs, I think that void is where the nzvhdta is suppose to sit.
At the very least a breed relevant QC under the pointer setter club would be a good start.

You got me a bit wrong there, Ruff ... the show world is simply the show world, warts and gazeboes ... it is a travesty that probably ninety + percent of gundogs in the ring will never ever know what their role is ... let me make it clear to you, I sell puppies ONLY TO HUNTERS ... and I will only ever sell them to hunters ... I follow the French breed standard and their WORKING STANDARD ... why? because the integrity of lineage must be maintained; to me it is RESPECT for the great minds behind the dogs ...

And as we are domiciled in a country so remote from the source of our breeds, no compromise can be taken ...

You crack me up, for sure ... if I want to speak to a dog in the language of his first commands, I will ...

I've always secretly fancied a sequin jacket

Originally Posted by Pointer

I've always secretly fancied a sequin jacket

Well that deteriorated fast

Originally Posted by Pointer

I've always secretly fancied a sequin jacket

@Pointer, what have you done with your hair ...