I didn't know labs and setters were closely related!!!

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Valid point Chris. Didn't think of that.

Mine are too closely related (embarassed)

I like labs. Looking to get a new one but its presuading dad to let me get one.

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Originally Posted by Toby

I like labs. Looking to get a new one but its presuading dad to let me get one.

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You are too young for a labrador.... old man's dog.

I had when I was younger.

Me too.. then I got wise enough to know they are an old man's dog :D

What makes them a old man dog.

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Originally Posted by Ruff

Me too.. then I got wise enough to know they are an old man's dog :D

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I mentioned to a Lab person that I might have got the wrong breed for my 2nd dog and he thought I had finally seen the light until I said at (field trials) I only had to stand on the bank and say 'fetch' whereas with a pointing breed (or spaniel) I had to follow the dog down the course. Much harder work.

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Originally Posted by Toby

What makes them a old man dog.

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Lab's are one dimensional, Pointers, setters and versatile two dimensional and spaniels three dimensional... and i am not biased at all... but I've owned every one of them except a setter and I've trained a couple of them.

What do you mean dimensional? Sounds interesting.

*sigh* too late to get that into it... get a Lab, :D