Thread: Time to submit against tail docking and dew claw removal ban (they never give in )

Hence why we had the chance to go with the JGHV system and took it.

There is no reason the NZGTA could not function without paying NZKC or bowing down to them, plenty of computer software that can store pedigrees and the rules are already in place for all trials and the relationship with the English trials world is pretty solid for support.
The only way NZGTA can survive is to cease and start again, amazing how 3 people and a lawyer can destroy a 100 years worth.

Originally Posted by kawhia

There is no reason the NZGTA could not function without paying NZKC or bowing down to them, plenty of computer software that can store pedigrees and the rules are already in place for all trials and the relationship with the English trials world is pretty solid for support.
The only way NZGTA can survive is to cease and start again, amazing how 3 people and a lawyer can destroy a 100 years worth.

Not often you have my full agreement. You got it this time!

if the nzgta could come up with a way of suborting some of the agility crew or geting more support with a less stringent kind of agility/hunting related type test while still employing pedigree standards.
these tests could lead to serious trialing or just be a indicator of ability in a still pedigree dog in a less stringent and competition focussed environment.

Originally Posted by gsp follower

if the nzgta could come up with a way of suborting some of the agility crew or geting more support with a less stringent kind of agility/hunting related type test while still employing pedigree standards.
these tests could lead to serious trialing or just be a indicator of ability in a still pedigree dog in a less stringent and competition focussed environment.

That would, I believe, be the final death cough!

I don't think the NZGTA will go under, I expect we will all get lumped with a 'Teresa tax' (you heard that here first folks, (c) pointer 2016 haha)

And let's face it if it does go under, something new will rise from the ashes. There's too many dog triallists out there

in truth it was the the agility people that put pressure on nzkc to repel the support for tail docking....nzkc listen to the biggest payers.

and checked my inbox just now and an email from Eugenie, it's official they have ran out of money and are calling for donations to support the legal costs and we have a new Teresa tax(c)2016
...........levys gone from $2 to $5.

Originally Posted by kawhia

in truth it was the the agility people that put pressure on nzkc to repel the support for tail docking....nzkc listen to the biggest payers.

and checked my inbox just now and an email from Eugenie, it's official they have ran out of money and are calling for donations to support the legal costs and we have a new Teresa tax(c)2016
...........levys gone from $2 to $5.

Yep had that myself a couple of days ago.

So the Teresa Tax is official? Should send her the bill. Thanks for stuffing it for everyone.

So who has dropped the NZGTA Exec an email offering them your support in the face of this lot of rubbish? Or better yet, dropped a few notes into their bank account?

Because Lawyers don't work for free while the additional income is generated through increased Trials levies.

I'm sure your comments and generosity would be gratefully received and greatly appreciated!

Originally Posted by gqhoon

So who has dropped the NZGTA Exec an email offering them your support in the face of this lot of rubbish? Or better yet, dropped a few notes into their bank account?

Because Lawyers don't work for free while the additional income is generated through increased Trials levies.

I'm sure your comments and generosity would be gratefully received and greatly appreciated!

Quite right. My support has been offered fully and directly with both the President and Secretary. Dollars I do not have enough for myself, but when I enter a dog in trial my contribution will be increased. It'd be nice to be able to do more, and I am sure many will.

I have! I got furtive phone calls in the night from @Liesel to do so

NZKC is wanting to rebrand to DogsNZ.
Mutts NZ would be more like it.
A good idea would be to restrict your donations to the running of the NZGDTA and not for legal fees.

Originally Posted by GSP

NZKC is wanting to rebrand to DogsNZ.
Mutts NZ would be more like it.
A good idea would be to restrict your donations to the running of the NZGDTA and not for legal fees.

Following the Australian example...DogsVictoria, etc etc...

the legal fees need to be paid for there to be a nzgta.

Originally Posted by kawhia

the legal fees need to be paid for there to be a nzgta.

Discussed this with someone involved today and they expressed a thought I had not considered. They wish to support the NZGTA, but do not want any donation to simply line any lawyers pocket on either side... NZGTA has my support, but I do see the argument.