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Hi all, look at getting a Hungarian vizsla for deer hunting, I know there's a lot of posts about how to's and how not to's on training dogs, but im after a book or to on training as I drive trucks and its easier with a book to read than reading on my phone. Any ideas for books with good tips etc would be great. Thanks
Paul M has great series of articles in NZ Hunter mag going back about 6 mths...plurry great read and simple explanations.
if you can get a copy of neils sondergard, dogs for deer. plenty of good pointers in it
Awesome and helpful post @Tussock
Tussock wrote...
but she is prone to forming her own plans and implementing them when I am distracted.
yep, that is what dogs do...according to Chambers, the word bitch is from the Old English bicce or Old Norwegian bikkja for the female of the dog, wolf and fox (also vixen)...it was applied to the female human, not the other way around as you suggest...
Which is why most people should get a low drive lab.
Heading dogs etc are the other way namely highly driven with some brains and it seems people don't realize that too.
my dog is gunshy but the better hunter. My bitch accompanies me hunting. In the field with both if you call them the dog will be instantly at you side but the bitch will stop, turn, look at you with are " are you sure you want me too " ok maybe i will wander back that way
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My father had the Smithfields...they were great hunters...Quote:
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the german sheppard comparison was often repeated by an old mate Campbell chittick, they had some nice Johnson type bulldogs.
it was a quote from an American police dog guru.............and bull dog breeder from memory.
after having a Johnson/scott one I can honestly say they have some ability and brains, but no more than a good boxer, and not the higher drive and intelligence of a german sheppard.... and no where near as full on as my old Dogo.
the american bull dog also taught me a lot about inherited genetic problems as he was a vets wet dream....ironic.
you could have saved the ink on ya key board and just posted the last bit.
the book dogs for deer, as mentioned has a pretty good following.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwiman
as have many of the hunting mags over the last few years.
now only your first paragraph makes any sense, yes this member has decided to get a vizsla and wants to do some home work on how to go about training it..... maybe he should have posted it in the pedigree/trial dog section you set up bro.
Kiwiman just wants a dog to take deerstalking with him. Surely he has more chance of getting a helpful companion if he chooses a dog that's bred for that specific task as opposed to one that's bred for an entirely different task.
I'd take a pitbull into the bush with me if I was hunting vizslas, not deer lol.
Logic (what am I doing bringing that up here) dictates the type of dog someone should get for hunting. Are you a serious hunter that is out at least once a week? Then get a GSP, GWP, collie. If your out once a month if your lucky then a lab or something might be more logical.
If your out several times a week get two.....
The real question on everyone's mind is, does kiwi man read books while driving a truck?
Yeah I was like wtf!! Easier than a phone ha haQuote:
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I believe that the dog found us...he took us hunting...the penultimate vector was never going to miss the opportunity of securing the spoils of the camp or cave fire...whereupon we developed a symbiotic relationship that has existed for millenia...he made our hunting and gathering not only more productive but also far more successful...(as he continues to do so)...no need to dig deer trap holes with deer antler spades in the vain hope that some unsuspecting animal and or driven, should be trapped...his co-existence enabled the human to further develop his own hunting skills with improvements and developments of hunting tools which would sustain both him and cani...the knapping of flint for example became a finite and precise art and took hunting to a higher level...without the dog in the mix, who knows the impairment to human evolution...
The one aspect of our relationship with dog that really aggravates me is the preposterous notion that we the owner of the dog indulge ourselves the notion that we are the pack leader, alpha male, alpha female...it is infantile to presume such a notion...we human, they dogs...we are still party to our symbiotic origins...and that will never change for the hunters because we cannot smell and hear like the dog...
Let me suggest, Tussock, that the day you start running around sniffing at humans' bums, piddling on every tree and car tyre, scratching your ear with your foot and baying at a hunters' moon, FGS ring someone....!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tussock
Meanwhile the guys still looking for a book.
Yep
Tussock why did you delete your rants? They were funny. 10% fact 80% opinion 10% flat out bullshit. Enjoyed them Immensely
Fair enough!
