Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

Terminator Black Watch


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 22
Like Tree28Likes

Thread: Gember the FoxRed Lab

  1. #1
    Sako & Anshultz!! Sako 243's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Palmerston North
    Posts
    491

    Gember the FoxRed Lab

    Hi guys,

    so we got our pup a couple months back. She is generally good, and has most basic commands sorted. She is locked up in the enclosed area with a kennel and the older Border Collie whenever we are not home, but they generally free range on the block when we are around.

    She follows me everywhere, checking the sheep, feeding the chooks and turkeys etc. Tried to chase the sheep once, but I stopped that firmly and hasn't done it since. Never goes into the paddocks or orchard where the chooks and turkeys are without us... only she has found a way to get in.

    Yesterday afternoon, I had taken her for a 20 minute walk around the sheep and feeding the chooks then went inside. Came out 10 minutes later to find this. She had found a way back into the chooks, caught and killed one, dragged it across to the front lawn and was eating it.

    I took the photo from inside before alerting her, then went outside, growled harshly, finger through collar and marched her directly to the old dog kennel/run and put her away. She knew she had displeased me.

    My wife just text to say she has done it again this morning and killed another chook.

    Name:  Gember.jpg
Views: 334
Size:  891.9 KB

    She is on twice a day feeding now, and rarely completely finishes her meal so it can't be from hunger.

    Any idea on training against this behaviour?

    John

  2. #2
    Member sambnz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    375
    Cool looking pup! Shame about the chooks. What are you feeding her?

  3. #3
    Member Gapped axe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Lake Tarawera
    Posts
    3,208
    chooks
    "ars longa, vita brevis"

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    southland
    Posts
    1,615
    I have been told by someone who had that same problem he tied the last chook it killed to its collar in a fashion so the pup couldn't get it but had to carry it around with it he reckoned it worked but it might make it not want to touch any birds after that.maybe borrow an electric collar and try that if you have time to watch the pup.

  5. #5
    Member Mathias's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Canterbury, home of the big Rakaia Red Stag
    Posts
    1,726
    Quote Originally Posted by berg243 View Post
    I have been told by someone who had that same problem he tied the last chook it killed to its collar in a fashion so the pup couldn't get it but had to carry it around with it he reckoned it worked but it might make it not want to touch any birds after that.maybe borrow an electric collar and try that if you have time to watch the pup.
    When I was a kid on the farm, the old man did that to any working dog that killed a chook. Tied it to the collar for days and it fixed the issue. But as mentioned, if you intend to use as a retriever, then it could have a negative effect.

  6. #6
    Sako & Anshultz!! Sako 243's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Palmerston North
    Posts
    491
    I'd rather not do anything that might compromise future use.

    She never even looks at the chooks when she comes with me to feed them. Mix of raw and biscuits at different meals - so one or the other.

  7. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    southland
    Posts
    1,615
    probably more of the chook runs and this is a neat game till one quick bite and no more running but a nice bloody taste to chew on not that it will be hungry labs don't eat a lot ha ha.i found with my labs if it runs try and eat it ,if it doesn't run eat it fast before anyone notices.
    Boar Freak likes this.

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Stewart island / canterbury
    Posts
    5,996
    Would suspect she is attacking them for fun and a play mate rather than food. Know a malamute that used to try play with then.... One swat with a paw and it's game over and roast chook for tea

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Hamilton
    Posts
    227
    Quote Originally Posted by Gapped axe View Post
    chooks
    I burst out laughing at that!

    My dad did the tie the chook to the dogs collar and leave it there until it rots off trick, dunno if it worked though.
    The shepherd on the family farm did a similar thing when his dogs caught goats while pighunting - tie the dog to the goat and give it a hiding, one goat got untied and ran off with my belt around it's horns.

    A shock collar might work, if you can watch while hidden and make the dog think it's the chook that give the shock.
    Last edited by Cigar; 14-03-2018 at 09:29 PM.

  10. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    324
    If she’s not under your immediate supervision, then lock her up. And dog-proof your chook / turkey enclosure properly.
    Pointer and HF1 like this.

  11. #11
    mkm
    mkm is offline
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Made it to the Manawatu
    Posts
    62
    As a kid I had a jack russel that started doing this. Tied a dead chook to the dog's collar for a day, never touched a chook again. Still caught and killed cats and the odd blackbird. Go easy with the shock collar, it can be a pretty quick way to create and anxious puppy. Good luck

  12. #12
    Sako & Anshultz!! Sako 243's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Palmerston North
    Posts
    491
    I live on a small farm, so hte breeder has suggested I set up a low electric fence around the orchard so that any time she goes there, she gets a shock. A couple should quickly deter her from going there.

    In the meantime, she is kennelled all the time and let out for controlled runs multiple times a day.

    Problem is, I leave tomorrow for China for a week for work and that increases workload on my wife and family.

    John

  13. #13
    Member JoshC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Southland/Otago
    Posts
    3,054
    Quote Originally Posted by gqhoon View Post
    If she’s not under your immediate supervision, then lock her up. And dog-proof your chook / turkey enclosure properly.
    This. Sorry to say, but tie her up when you guys aren't around.
    I'm drawn to the mountains and the bush, it's where life is clear, where the world makes the most sense.

  14. #14
    Sako & Anshultz!! Sako 243's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Palmerston North
    Posts
    491
    We only had her free when we were home, and always with the older dog. So not totally unsupervised.

    John

  15. #15
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    854
    An e collar is only going to work if you catch her in the act... and it will work when done right.
    it will not affect her as a gundog in the future, and at this stage before you run out of chickens I would be setting her up and dealing with the problem.
    she has taught herself to catch and eat her prize, little miss innocent will need to be contained and the chooks need to be dog proofed.
    Carpe Diem and Micky Duck like this.

 

 

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!