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Hi all
So here goes; the Mrs wants a rat(Jack Russell) and I want a deer indicating dog that also serves the role as a pet.
We live on a small section and are both young so what I'm asking is what falls into that category!?
the only thing we can both agree on is a beagle which would appear to fit the niche but what else should be considered?
Small Collie?
Can't speak for deer dogs, but I love Jacks, best dog there is. So much pluck.
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Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter
Beagles are houdini's
Get the dog each of you wants but collie cross would be Ok if you can only have one. Otherwise
Fox terrier
Best beaters dog I have ever witnessed was a Jack Russell...:D
I would love to have a Jack Russell. I saw one in Upper Hutt years ago hanging off the nutsack of a rather distressed Rotweiller that seemed to be regretting being the aggressor.
Beagles are awful , unless your using them as a hound.
Mind of their own , won't listen , wanderers,
Get the Jack.
My brother witnessed the same thing but with a large boar rather than a Rotty, and the boar was sitting down to stop it....Hint, when a dog is biting your nuts, sitting on its head and nose does not help the situation as the dog can no longer let go.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Vizsla? Mine will hunt all day with me(I only use her on deer and pheasants) and then come home and be the perfect family pet. They do have endless energy but they are happy to do whatever you are doing and won't scavenge nor wander.
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very clever dogs but they are not called velcro dogs for no reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
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Many many years ago my wife used to look after a ladies breeding kennel. There were 20 Jack Russells and 10 Border terriers, Nice dogs but nasty little fuckers when provoked.Quote:
Originally Posted by EeeBees
Have you thought of a GSP Vizala cross?
dogo argentina !!
Soooooo fecking true.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
Lady friend has one - the dog likes to get RIGHT UP CLOSE and press itself through your skin.
Funny enough, she gets really jealous of her owner when I'm showing the owner attention/massage/cuddled up on couch.
That would be a contender. The wife is liking GSP X Lab which would do the trickQuote:
Originally Posted by murraygb
Get a labrador its all ready been tested at the lab:D
A wirey foxy thing. Job done.
I had a female Jack Russell, hard as fuck. Could work stock with her and hunt her. sadly I accidently ran her over, seems to be the more common way these things leave this world. Don't miss the white hair everywhere thou. Currently have a Australian Terrier, and man does this little dog have character. Loves to move stock and enjoys hunting. Being low or non shedding is a bloody huge bonus. I also have a GWP for security work and hunting, great mates.
In your situation I'd be looking at the Jack Russell. Beagles are bastards to train and the stock in NZ is not good. MPI had to get their stock (for detector dogs) from Australia initially as the NZ stuff was just too belligerent for their training methodology.
Visla's are great hunting dogs, but probably too big for your purpose. This won't be popular, as it goes against many comments here, but I having worked with more than a couple of dozen Vizslas and personally believe the Vizsla is no more a "Velcro dog" than any other soft breed. The problem with Vizsla's is every bloody breeder tells people they are getting a "Velcro dog" and then some behaviors are encouraged that normally wouldn't be. Pushing, clinging, crotch sniffing and other examples of bad manners are tolerated because they are "Velcro dogs" Load of rubbish. Every one I have worked with was no more clingy or Velcro than any other dog I have seen and once you took away the excuse give by the breeders they learned perfectly acceptable manners just like any other dog. As for not wandering... fences stop dogs wandering, not genetics.
I've seen lots of very competent terriers worked on deer... and they are great little characters. The only downfalls are they require very astute possum aversion training. Not really capable of grabbing and hanging on to a wounded big game animal, but they'll always have a go and they only warm very small areas of a sleeping bag!
Who wears the pants at your place, just tell your wife what dog your getting. If she don't like it she can go------sorry wife just coming up the drive and she left me chores to do so got to go now. hope she lets me go hunting this month. good luck.
The only thing beagles are good for are kicking. A mad Aunt runs a beagle adoption and rehome service, without exaggeration every single one is a dominant, agressive, untrainable mutt that falls into the wrong hands because of their looks
You missed pig ignorant, bull headed dirty bastards.
Me or Pointer? LOL We were trying to be nice! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wirehunt
This morning Mum 84yrs asked if she could take Tilly (Australian Terrier) up to the old folks home when she goes up to read to them twice a week. Mum reads stories out to the oldies, most are her age or younger with a few older, most have dementia and really no quality of life. Apparently Tilly was a hit and spent quite some time on the lap of a 99yr olds with dementia who can't talk, limited use etc. Mum said the lady just sat there the whole time in tears and a huge smile on her dial. The home have asked mum if she could bring Tilly back again soon. What do you reckon?? I'm sure Tills enjoyed the attention.
Good on your mum for doing so. If Tilly makes the day of someone in a situation like that then it was worth it. Age is cruel
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Originally Posted by Gapped axe
Bloody AWESOME!
I still do a handful of gigs each yeah in rest homes. I find them really hard, but just a glimmer on a face playing some corny old song like "You are my sunshine" makes it worthwhile.
Mum died in a resthome, it cuts a bit raw with me.
All three :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ruff
I haven't found them aggressive or dominant, but wandering untrainable bastards, oh and dirty in the under handed way. Hell, you'll be confused again Ruff. I'm talking about the beagles here.
The gf used to work in an old folks home and used to take the dogs in regularly, then I'd be roped in to taking the ferrets in for a visit. The oldies used to love it, music and animals and they are happy!!
man that's awesome , old age is such a cruel bastard of a thingQuote:
Originally Posted by Gapped axe
you missed the briefQuote:
Originally Posted by gonetropo
DEER bro not holding big gnarly boars
Yup. Just ask Maca. He and two of his mates have one eye and two teeth between them.Quote:
Originally Posted by madmaori
hahahaha gold as usual rushyQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy