Shock collar recommendatiins

Ok folks I know shock collars are contentious issues but I believe they work well.

Have seen one that just buzzed as a slight correction and also used one doing kiwi aversion that gave them a good belt.

Looking at buying my own as one dog keeps buggering off and finding possums when out for evening walks when I don't have the rifle and hunting isn't the activity. No matter how much yelling she'll be sitting under a tree barking at the bloody thing walk off and leave her and she'll join back up further along the track but this is getting old fast.

Would a buzz/vibration be enough to bring her back? What the the features I should be looking for on th collar and hand unit? I did a quick look and see they range hugely ($80 is for a cheap off trade me to $800+) http://www.mggproducts.co.nz/index.p...product_id=457 is the one that seems to be fitting the bill best

Why not go for an alpha 100 unit, and TT15 collar, plus side is you get a gps for free!
You can get the dog to recall to the beeper sound that the collar makes, I have seen this with my own dogs.

Funniest thing I saw was a mate tried it out on himself

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Originally Posted by johnd

Why not go for an alpha 100 unit, and TT15 collar, plus side is you get a gps for free!
You can get the dog to recall to the beeper sound that the collar makes, I have seen this with my own dogs.

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Getting a gps collar was another idea, still looking into what is available. First impressions are that the gps collars don't have the same range of vibrations/ buzz/ shocks

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Originally Posted by northdude

Funniest thing I saw was a mate tried it out on himself

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We all need to see the video of that one

Would of been one of the best videos out if we made one every time it shocked him he would yell out and it would get him again we were on the floor laughing over that one :)

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Originally Posted by 223nut

Getting a gps collar was another idea, still looking into what is available. First impressions are that the gps collars don't have the same range of vibrations/ buzz/ shocks

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Pluss 1 , they are (alpha)a awesome setup...I sold myn a few months ago & got a garmin 62s which is pretty hohum compared to the alpha...haven't used the tt15 but no someone that has 1 , seemly great.

Only problem with a gps version is its a bit out of the budget at the moment and I don't use dogs for pigs at all. Guess I could wear it so the missus can keep a track of me....

The missus has already used the find my iphone feature on my phone to see where I was, when I was legitimately at work...lets just say it was the last time I gave her any of my passwords :o

Spend decent money and get a good unit, dogtra etc.
You can get them from cabelas pretty cheap or pay a third more going through the nz supplier.
I own a pair of them but have never actually used them to be honest.....they are always loaned out.

Re reading your post it sounds like you only want to discourage the dog while on possums. Would a bark collar be enough gun? You could always try the 2nd hand market for something like an Alpha but you dont get vibrate, try and get a legit one if you go that path as having the US frequencies can be a hassle if it needs repair.
The only thing an alpha lacks is the vibrate function of some other collars, it has a good set of lower levels for stimulation, which is where they should be set mostly..

i bought a DTS. dog collar online from usa.range of 1.5 miles( 4 years ago),only use it for correction problems,ie chasing hares.had no problems,robust,waterproof,and effective.

I was using one of these https://dogmaster.co.nz/dogtra-iq-pl...g-system-365m/ A good unit that works well.

I now use a Alpha 100/TT15. One push of the vibrate button and my dog comes to heel. Excellent.

I have a Garmin alpha, has vibrate, tone and shock functions, got an older dog going deaf so wanted the beep to call him back, good for showing when on point in heavy cover too

Do like the look of the Garmin alpha but it's a bit more than I need. Only take one dog out at a time and usually withen 100m. Well out of the budget as well, might buy a cheaper off trade me and make do with that for the mean time

There's an outfit in Dunners that has them, I've got two sets and the are good. Any problems and they are straight onto it. hogdogs.co.nz

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Originally Posted by Wirehunt

There's an outfit in Dunners that has them, I've got two sets and the are good. Any problems and they are straight onto it. hogdogs.co.nz

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Brought stuff off the in he past and been happy. Ended up with one from mgg will take it out this evening and see how it goes. 600m range which should be plenty for most areas I go to, thick bush but usually less than 100m. 16settings for shock and vibrate and a tone function as well, Put it on 3 and tested it myself.... Bloody hell wouldn't want it any higher

I got a Garmin pro sport dog collar,
Works super well, use the vibrate function to bring my gsp back when she runs off too far or decides to chase stuff,
Highly reccomended

This is the one i have and use, Only use the vibrate function to remind my dog on distance, and to be fair she has raced off after rabbits and is given a reminder she is a deer dog. Almost to the point we dont need it on at all......


SportDOG SD-1825 Remote Trainer | SD-1825 | Electronic Registers Ltd t/a Innotek/SportDog/PetSafe

Hamish

My brother and I had different views on the collar, ethics of it don't bother me just effectiveness.

Brother got one and when it's on it works great. Issue is that it doesn't fix the issue, it just addresses the symptom. As soon as it's off or the battery goes dead his dog does what he wants.

You're far better off in the long run just putting the extra work into your dog with obedience. I went that direction now no matter what great things there are to chase my girl doesn't leave my side - no batteries required.

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Originally Posted by Bavarian_Hunter

My brother and I had different views on the collar, ethics of it don't bother me just effectiveness.

Brother got one and when it's on it works great. Issue is that it doesn't fix the issue, it just addresses the symptom. As soon as it's off or the battery goes dead his dog does what he wants.

You're far better off in the long run just putting the extra work into your dog with obedience. I went that direction now no matter what great things there are to chase my girl doesn't leave my side - no batteries required.

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This makes a heap of sense. It's nothing to do about ethics, just effectiveness. Part of your issue is yelling at a dog treeing a coon. That only encourages them... the dog doesn;t know wtf you're saying and it's yelling, now you're yelling and encouraging it.... from its point of view. Walking off and having it catch you up would have been all you needed really to fix this. It might have taken a couple of weeks but would have worked, still will. Just don;t "join in" the activity by yelling and scragging the dog. The hiding a dog gets doing this is less than a good pig dog gets having a ball scragging a pig... like rugby, doesn't even feel the punches in the game... only later....

The e-collar will get a result, but it will be more like bogging up rust as opposed to welding in some good metal.

If you're determined to use the collar, get a good one, economics can be very false with these things.

You just described half of the Pointer and Setter clubs dogs Bavarian hunter...

I reckon by the time you know enough about dog psychology and training you don't need one.

Flame away :D

Something from the past (an old book called 'Dog People are Crazy' and this is about a guy who 'invented an electronic collar'. I think this must have been in the '60's or even earlier. The field trial section of the book was hilarious.

"The Inventor
About this time, an inventor fellow in our group tried to figure a way to throw a spark, in order to make his dog obey at a distance. He used a spark coil from an ancient Ford Model T car. But this didn’t work. So he decided to electrify a long raining rope.
He wired the training rope, and got his wife to sew some canvas into a carrying pack for batteries and spare coil. The training rope was attached to a special collar which had points to touch the dog’s neck skin.
This was a Rube Goldbergian type of apparatus, and rather formidable in appearance. The training fraternity was quite breathless to see it in operation. When the day came for the test, a crowd gathered, and a live pheasant was ‘planted’ ahead of the dog.
The dog picked up the scent of the pheasant and moved in to it. But the pheasant elected to run instead of flushing into the air. The man blew his whistle and yelled ‘hup’. As expected, the dog ignored both commands. So his owner turned on the juice.
The dog jumped 20 feet in surprise. But the gadget was somehow not properly grounded. The owner got the same shock, and jumped 40. The dog was so surprised, he came to heel, and quit hunting for the day. And that ended the experiment.
Now it’s been said that true inventions are always made in the proper scientific climate which means at the right time and place in history. My friend was trying to invent something 30 years too soon.
Today there is an electronic dog trainer available which works on the principle of the walkie-talkie. The receiver is fastened to the dog’s collar. And the owner can shock him when he refuses to obey, even at distances of 200 yards."