i have steady dogs, and can see them slow right up even if they are out in front, we can start the roading process as soon as i instruct them to walk on, skills best learnt on the bird front..... if i want them closer i'll tap my leg, but i like my space to hunt as much as they do.
not sure where you hunt but most of our shit is uphill or down hill, walking along a footpath is different to the field, having the dog under control does not need to be attached to ya knee............. avoiding the retriever position is another hurdle to avoid as well....{just behind you}
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