im going to train my next meat dog to hunt out in front, I will have the ability to cast it long right and left out to 10-30 meters depending on bush type, Out of sight is not a problem to me as you need to make maximum use of its nose , , i will teach it to hold point on deer sent from large distances , and during pointing training (witch would be on birds and fixed deer) i would concentrate alot of time on roading-in training, having a start and stop command for it , and i would train the german style of finding when it comes back with its collar in mouth ,
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