Thread: Air pistols and robberies

Or if we tackled the reason's for people robbing Dairy's in the first place.

How about we just arm the dairy owners?

sooner or later a grumpy dairy owner is going to shoot one of these dickheads, then he will be prosecuted of course.
no wonder the criminals have no respect they know 99.9% of people will comply and fork over the money

Norske, I see your point, but NZ is a great place to become educated and get ahead, problem is it's a choice and the system now allows you to take what you can from social service and do a bit of theiving to top up and live a lazy life. That's what you have to change, I cannot believe anyone goes thru the schooling system here and cannot read or write, let alone do simple maths. We allow these choices to be available, I don't know the answer, but taking hard working citizens earning ain't really an option.
I old and tend to believe in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but there are too many soft cocks now that just want to cuddle the poor bastards

Originally Posted by Maca49

Norske, I see your point, but NZ is a great place to become educated and get ahead, problem is it's a choice and the system now allows you to take what you can from social service and do a bit of theiving to top up and live a lazy life. That's what you have to change, I cannot believe anyone goes thru the schooling system here and cannot read or write, let alone do simple maths. We allow these choices to be available, I don't know the answer, but taking hard working citizens earning ain't really an option.
I old and tend to believe in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but there are too many soft cocks now that just want to cuddle the poor bastards

People do though.I would say half the guys I worked with in Kaiangaroa couldn't read or write well.Statistically I should have been a failure too,no School Certificate,dropped out of School,manual labourer etc. However I was raised well and had that support network of family and strong role models.

Most offenders come from broken homes,many were abused as kids,the odds are stacked against them from the start.Add to that limited job prospects,low income communities,historical welfare dependancies.Tommy states they choose to offened,they can't "un-choose" the circumstances they grew up in.

Originally Posted by norsk

People do though.I would say half the guys I worked with in Kaiangaroa couldn't read or write well.Statistically I should have been a failure too,no School Certificate,dropped out of School,manual labourer etc. However I was raised well and had that support network of family and strong role models.

Most offenders come from broken homes,many were abused as kids,the odds are stacked against them from the start.Add to that limited job prospects,low income communities,historical welfare dependancies.Tommy states they choose to offened,they can't "un-choose" the circumstances they grew up in.

And to go further into that particular failure, we're into politics. Choice is choice. Don't penalise the people who don't make shit life decisions for the actions of those that do. This applies to many aspects of life.

Originally Posted by Tommy

And to go further into that particular failure, we're into politics. Choice is choice. Don't penalise the people who don't make shit life decisions for the actions of those that do. This applies to many aspects of life.

But you will do.

Privatised prisons need more and more "paying customers".

Originally Posted by norsk

But you will do.

Privatised prisons need more and more "paying customers".

Volunteers. I pay.

Knowing a few on here we have come from similar starts to you and have made our own way through life without privilege, it's a self attitude and a motivation to do some thing with your life. @Rushy I view my super as a god given right! Don't go there!

Originally Posted by Maca49

Knowing a few on here we have come from similar starts to you and have made our own way through life without privilege, it's a self attitude and a motivation to do some thing with your life. @Rushy I view my super as a god given right! Don't go there!

No argument from me. I work hard for my $$ and we look after ourselves and yet I find I am constantly being expected to "pay more" or "my share"

Well F#$k me why, really takes away the intensive to work hard when you can do Sweet FA and still get looked after.
Don't get me started about all the bleating about house prices

Originally Posted by mikee

No argument from me. I work hard for my $$ and we look after ourselves and yet I find I am constantly being expected to "pay more" or "my share"

Well F#$k me why, really takes away the intensive to work hard when you can do Sweet FA and still get looked after.
Don't get me started about all the bleating about house prices

Nothing wrong with house prices! They've made me millions!!! Hahahahaha

Originally Posted by Maca49

Knowing a few on here we have come from similar starts to you and have made our own way through life without privilege, it's a self attitude and a motivation to do some thing with your life. @Rushy I view my super as a god given right! Don't go there!

I wasn't talking about your super you cranky old codger.

Originally Posted by Rushy

I wasn't talking about your super you cranky old codger.

I'll take that as a compliment!

People taking personal responsibility for their actions would go a long way.

I'm sick of the "oh he was beaten as a child" type shit I so often read about. Back in the day socially accepted means of disciplining children are regarded as child abuse today. Knowing the difference between right and wrong is not rocket science. Most criminals elect to do what they do through choice, motivated by greed and by the fact that they can't be bothered doing a day's honest work so they feel it is their right to take from others.

Playing the victim and using that as an excuse is a loser's attitude. There are a lot of low-paid law abiding citizens who've experienced hardship too.

Originally Posted by Ryan

People acknowledging and taking personal responsibility for their actions would go a long way.

I'm sick of the "oh he was beaten as a child" type shit I so often read about. Back in the day socially accepted means of disciplining children are regarded as child abuse today. Knowing the difference between right and wrong is not rocket science. Most criminals elect to do what they do through choice, motivated by greed and by the fact that they can't be bothered doing a day's honest work so they feel it is their right to take from others.

There are a lot of low-paid law abiding citizens who've experienced hardship too. Playing the victim and using that as excuse is a loser's attitude.

Exactly.