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    Shooters manifesto banned

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/chr...-objectionable

    If you downloaded it your are suppose to delete/destroy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stug View Post
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/chr...-objectionable

    If you downloaded it your are suppose to delete/destroy it.
    No no - you must have your wires X @stug
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    sounds like allot of other documents that should not be viewed by the populace, problem is most of those are written by politicians

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    The "Great Replacement" is now banned. Next the board will consider "Mein Kampf", "The Q....n", "Das Kapital", but these reviews are pending submissions by their respective Authors, so won't be done during an indefinite consultation period. I think you can get those publications without even having to use Tor Browser.

    Having decided to read the first item, my analysis is you miss nothing: a young man feeling threatened by fertile dark skinned families belonging to a superior culture which are outbreeding his subfertile, corrupted race... and he then irrationally decided to commit mass murder instead of joining them. I decided not to watch his sick film because it would unseat reason from my driving seat. It would absolutely screw up my brain if I was a muslim, so I reckon Muslims were ultimate the intended audience. Imagine what it would do to your head watching something like that and your first name is Mohammed???

    I have already read the thing and did not save it, so have no need to defy this classification ruling. It's of course a correct ruling, the hypocrisy is in not looking at other publications while at it. The unwise aspect of this is of course that it will forever fan interest in his manifesto --- it will sadly be elevated to a permanent place on online lists of "banned publications". But it is more about the NZ Government doing the right thing and being seen to do the right thing.
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    Begin Quote:

    However, Shanks said the office appreciated there would be a range of people who would be in possession of the document for "legitimate" purposes, including education, analysis and in-depth reporting.

    "Those individuals can apply for exemptions, so they can legitimately access and hold a copy."

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    This opens the door for those persons with "legitimate" purposes to quote from document to promote their own agenda - and closes the door to the public to check the facts or identify any quotes that have been taken out of context.

    Who is going to determine who can use this document by "legitimate" purposes.
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    Are you not surprised... There is no freedom of speech any more. You know what we tell you. And if you don't fully agree we will sick a bookface mob onto you, got it! And we are telling you plastic bags are bad, and your not fit and proper to be able to handle one. But don't worry we won't bull shit you, promise ��
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    Good. Wipe that muppet from existence. Leave no trace of him. Only his victims. Let him rot silently in isolation for the rest of his days.

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    Good move getting it gone, erase as much of his voice as possible. No room for hate speech, that is very different to freedom of speech. People such as psychologists could have legitimate claim to want to study intent etc in an attempt to understand extremism. I really cant see it being used for conspiracy as suggested above. Sounds like I should be selling tin foil hats to a few
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    problem is that wankers like alpers will get access to it as he is supposedly a professor .
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    Ahhh, the "tolerant and inclusive" left.

    They are coming for your firearms (as evidenced). They are coming for your personal views if they run counter to the narrative. They dictate what you must read, listen and watch. Whether you like it or not, you will be made to conform or they will threaten you, shame you and ruin you financially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Ahhh, the "tolerant and inclusive" left.

    They are coming for your firearms (as evidenced). They are coming for your personal views if they run counter to the narrative. They dictate what you must read, listen and watch. Whether you like it or not, you will be made to conform or they will shame you, threaten you and ruin you financially.
    lol what? What does this have to do with the left? And if you're talking about New Zealands "left vs right" then both sides were in favour of removing the semi-autos, not just labour and co.

    What legitimate reason do you have for this material to not be objectionable? It's legitimately hateful propaganda which could further radicalize people to his beliefs and keeps his message alive. Snuff him out and forget about him and anyone else with his bigoted world views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Ahhh, the "tolerant and inclusive" left.

    They are coming for your firearms (as evidenced). they will threaten you, shame you and ruin you financially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clavulanate View Post
    lol what? What does this have to do with the left? And if you're talking about New Zealands "left vs right" then both sides were in favour of removing the semi-autos, not just labour and co.

    What legitimate reason do you have for this material to not be objectionable? It's legitimately hateful propaganda which could further radicalize people to his beliefs and keeps his message alive. Snuff him out and forget about him and anyone else with his bigoted world views.
    It's not about whether I, or you, or anyone find his views objectionable or not. Neither the state, nor you, or anyone else, is the arbiter of what an individual can or cannot read or watch.

    If you want hateful propaganda and radicalisation, look no further than the slew of garbage articles that have come out of the Herald and Stuff lately (both inherently biased to the left). The number of articles vilifying the firearms community and white people in general is incredibly destructive and only pours petrol on the dumpster fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    It's not about whether I, or you, or anyone find his views objectionable or not. The state, nor you, or anyone else, is not the arbiter of what an individual can or cannot read or watch.

    If you want hateful propaganda and radicalisation, look no further than the slew of garbage articles that have come out of the Herald and Stuff lately (both inherently biased to the left). The number of articles vilifying the firearms community and white people in general is incredibly destructive and only pours petrol on the dumpster fire.
    Yeah when the NZherald calls for the massacre of firearms owners maybe then you can compare them. Until then you're just coming across as a bit nutty.

    And evidently, the state is the arbiter of what an individual can or cannot read or watch... you know how people who watch child porn go to jail for example?

 

 

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