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    Tahr cull and WARO suspended

    E category licenses are now no longer, you are not allowed to use an E Cat firearm at all as you no longer have any endorsement or license to do so. As a consequence all cull's, pest control, WARO etc etc can no longer happen until each individual shooter applies for and is given the correct license/endorsement to use what use to be E Cat firearms. No individual will be able to apply for such a license/endorsement until they prove that they are part of a legitimate business that has the appropriate Game recovery license, or DoC contract, or works for MPI etc etc. Wonder how long it takes for the NZP to have a suitable system up and running, the longer it takes, the better as far as I'm concerned. I dont see that they have any more right to a particular type of firearm than any of us law abiding LFAO's. Let them go back to their semi shotguns with a 5 round mag, just like we are required to do, worked for years before hand, can work again.
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    Ya there is still a chance for my fat lazy arse to get a tahr over may then?!

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    What a one eyed opinion. There a more people out there that rely on their firearms to earn a living than just Tahr cullers. And yes, they do deserve their endorsement more than the average sport shooter
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    ummmmm yeah nah....there is NOTHING to stop a culler /chopper shooter from using a bolt action rifle or pump action shottie......having spoken to chap who did geese culls from chopper he ended up NOT using a magazine gun and went back to a double as it was quicker and easier to reload. so the culling will continue as before.
    we need to stop throwing rocks at other legit FAL holders...we might not particularly LIKE the type of guns they use or what they do with them for thier employment.....but at end of the day we are all in the same boat....death by a thousand cuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst View Post
    What a one eyed opinion. There a more people out there that rely on their firearms to earn a living than just Tahr cullers. And yes, they do deserve their endorsement more than the average sport shooter
    Valid point, it's got too affect a business if they can't use the tools they have brought to do the job for another month. There are a few tradies here, imagine the governemtn said you can't use a battery drill till you get the right licence you have to use a screwdriver till then.... (Analogy someone used with me the other day) can still out a screwdriver in it's just going to take a whole lot longer....

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    Wasnt Eugenie Sage was on the tv the other night saying " you dont need semi automatics for pest control".....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    ummmmm yeah nah....there is NOTHING to stop a culler /chopper shooter from using a bolt action rifle or pump action shottie......having spoken to chap who did geese culls from chopper he ended up NOT using a magazine gun and went back to a double as it was quicker and easier to reload. so the culling will continue as before.
    we need to stop throwing rocks at other legit FAL holders...we might not particularly LIKE the type of guns they use or what they do with them for thier employment.....but at end of the day we are all in the same boat....death by a thousand cuts.
    Anyone who has done a decent amount of shooting from a chopper will tell you two things

    1. Semi is the most practical firearm to use, you have split seconds for a second shot and a pump or any manually manipulated action for that matter can result in missed opportunities
    2. A pistol grip rifle is much easier and safer to handle from a chopper
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    I was just talking to a guy who runs a wild animal control operation. He cant work at present as his armoury is pretty much all semis for goat and wallaby control. So thats all his employees out of action till this is sorted. Long time between grocery shopping trips .....
    Cats have nine lives-which makes them ideal for experimentation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzza View Post
    I was just talking to a guy who runs a wild animal control operation. He cant work at present as his armoury is pretty much all semis for goat and wallaby control. So thats all his employees out of action till this is sorted. Long time between grocery shopping trips .....
    Yeap, old man is currently trying to keep going using a T3 in place of semi rifles, had to go out and buy it just to keep working. Lost a mag on the first night which added to his frustration. T3 is a couple weeks old and had over a thousand rounds through it already
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst View Post
    Yeap, old man is currently trying to keep going using a T3 in place of semi rifles, had to go out and buy it just to keep working. Lost a mag on the first night which added to his frustration. T3 is a couple weeks old and had over a thousand rounds through it already
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    So he has stopped using semi's already ?
    By choice ?? or ??

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    You guys will get stomach ulcers worrying about this shit that you can't influence, let alone control. Just let the pest guys get on with their lives - its their livelihoods that are being affected by the changes - so the sooner they can get under way in the best way that suits what they do the better.
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    Not sure what the issue is. A shotgun is highly effective on deer or other imported goats. A mate is laughing because he can feed his modified Benelli as quick as most could fire a 7/8/9 shot mag.Most politicians and the police do not understand the ingenuity of kiwis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarvo View Post
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    So he has stopped using semi's already ?
    By choice ?? or ??
    Not by choice. Told directly by arms officer not to use them

    Edit to add: was actually told as part of the conversations "if we stop you on the road and you have those rifles with you, we will be obligated to take them then and there on the spot"

    This is despite the fact he uses a 5th wheeler/gooseneck trailer when he goes away on a job, the front half is converted as living quarters and he can carry his quad or sxs and all his gear in the back. He takes security and safety seriously and the trailer has a E-cat safe mounted in it for transport of firearms etc, he's gone over and above what is required of him to protect his livelihood but is still being stood on and just wants to do his job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst View Post
    Not by choice. Told directly by arms officer not to use them

    Edit to add: was actually told as part of the conversations "if we stop you on the road and you have those rifles with you, we will be obligated to take them then and there on the spot"

    This is despite the fact he uses a 5th wheeler/gooseneck trailer when he goes away on a job, the front half is converted as living quarters and he can carry his quad or sxs and all his gear in the back. He takes security and safety seriously and the trailer has a E-cat safe mounted in it for transport of firearms etc, he's gone over and above what is required of him to protect his livelihood but is still being stood on and just wants to do his job.

    That's part of the issue, the security inspection regime is tied to a fixed address and a private person or organisation can't have security in a mobile premises (car van truck boat etc). I've had a few people I've met in the marine world ask me about installing a firearms safe in a liveaboard cruising vessel and go around the country taking the odd walk where bush is close to a safe anchorage. Unless you have a fixed residential or business address it's not covered in the current arms act - which is where we get into the issues of unattended vehicles at gas stations toilet stops etc.
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