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But your dog came about from exactly the same weird practices, to think otherwise is just silly, it's well documented, you only have to look with both eyes open and not get too hung up on breed...

I can honestly say your dog is as inbred as it's English counterpart.
I am sure even you can work out the math on how many dogs have come to this country vrs how long they have been here.
You can...

It is not being neither in this instance, at least for my own kennel it is more a matter of time, I can wait until the option to use a diluted offspring and get the same COI as it would be more PC or...

topic and thread counts according to the stats on the home page does indicate the dog section is not used by a tiny percentage of the membership by the way.

i will repeat myself, i posted it in the right place.......subject was pretty well answered in full, including a bit more conversation which was all pretty civil.

No wonder no one wants to post in here. You guys who want to breed you dogs to their relatives to produce a more identical mutant to win a ribbon should assume when I post I am not talking to you in...

Lazy or greedy ? Interesting.

it is always a numbers game....... but it got results, try breeding that number of pups over 10-20 years let alone 12 months.

grandparent to any of his/her offspring is pretty much accepted and a COI of 12.5 %
half siblings to each other is the same 12.5%
6.25% or less is the ideal in a good population breed like...

i think 'woody' featured very strongly in the mating, it was frank tommys breeding that was the double up.
i have requested the chances of doing such a mating through our breed warden with my own...

just read an english setter litter whelped in oz last year, half sisiter to half brother on the dams side.
now got me thinking how accepted is this close in the pointer/setter world. been reading...