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Yep time for a cat

That's true. I didn't mean to put kind and compliant on the same page as timid

I reckon a dog that can't take training pressure at all, is as bad as a dog that takes too much. I have certainly had both ends of the scale.

I reckon the pro might want a softer dog, that retains...

It's great to see. Also why you see the odd cocker still set game. Was it a kennel boy of Nash's? He could tell some stories!

Exactly. Both Erlandson and his mentor Nash spoke openly about it

I find them so similar in temperament and personality I doubt it would be such a shock. And it would be more than interesting EBs, they would be useful. Enzo is the best spaniel I know :D

Tell us about that red cocker ruff. I have a not so secret desire to put a working red setter we have here to a cocker bitch :D

Interesting observations, thanks for the insight

Ruff can you elaborate on the greymist dog above? You mentioned he was slow maturing, then below that you say he was instinctive enough to allow him to take runners younger than you normally do?

So was the 1900 one cheaper due to size of crate? Sorry to hijack the thread

$1900 is good from Oz kawhia - only dog I brought from there cost me 3k.
It's $180-200 alone inter-island, and $75 as checked in luggage if you are flying too. No excuses munsey

Munsey you are too young for a lab!

On a serious note if you need a hand with picking up a pup here and transporting it south then sing out, I'd be happy to help. Truth is if you are going to...