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Jezz what is it with you guys and your 'must own it or can't recommend it' fixation?

My long-term shooting mate who goes out to the range with me every 2 weeks has a TORIC UHD 3-15X50 rifle scope....

TRACT Toric. They are made in the LOW factory using HD German Schott glass. As well, they are direct sellers from the States so are cheaper than many of their competitors - and in many instances way...

Not sure what this comment means Woody. I am not on facebook and wouldn't know a 'unhealthy flaming' thread if I read it.

I wrote the thread because I sold my Leupold and brought two very good s/h...

Yeah always surprised me how those UTG Leapers/ Accushot scopes can hold up to air-rifles. One of the best entry level field target scopes at not much cost.

55six notice I included the Arken EP4 (your soon to arrive Arken SH4 Gen 2 I have no reviews to compare it with....as yet)

Ok just for you Mr Sarvo here is an updated list (although I did have your Delta scopes listed as a 4.5 star before):

Five-Star Scopes

Athlon Optics Cronus BTR
Arken Optics...

Micky Duck I reckon Leupold should have you on the books and pay you a commission for every Leupold they sell.

You would have to be the number 1 Leupold 'positive promotion man' on this whole...

No way...I'm a BOP English teacher not an Auckland property developer. :thumbsup:

This is just my opinion based on use of a few, and the other ratings based on shooters opinions and reading.

Opps, I forgot Sarvo's Delta brand scopes....they would go in the 4+ star group (if there was one)

Leupold scopes are definitely quality...no doubt.
My point is that the price vs value is just not there anymore if one takes in consideration other top line scope brands.

I suppose that argument...

How do you find your Minox nor-west? The Minox ZL3 I owned for about 3 months was really poor quality (Philippines made) and there are mixed reviews of the Minox ZA5 assembled in Germany, and ZX5...

Vortex cranks out a high volume of optics at a low cost per unit so can offer a great warranty. However the warranty is required as the high volume and low QC affects their reliability...it seems to...

Before I brought the Super Slam I tried out a friends Weaver Grand Slam. I definitely like the turrets of the Super Slam better, but the glass of the Super and Grand seems to me to be the same. If...

Yeah Leupold's lifetime warranty and customer service is excellent sure.
However more and more scope companies are trying to match it. Look at Vortex for example. Leupold has an advantage with the...

I've got a Vari-X II 4-12x with target turrents and the eye relief must be under 3" - just today I had to shorten the length of my Remington 700 Mountain rifle stock to make it viable.

NzMavrick I've found that the below are great 2nd hand mid-range scopes that sell for around NZ$400...worth looking at instead of Leupold:

Nikon Monarch III 3-12x42 BDC s/h or 4-16x50 BDC ...

NZ hunters seem to love Leupold scopes, I own three myself (well now two), but I have always felt that you paid a premium for the Leupold name and for an American made product. So over the last 3...