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Also I'm pretty sure that shield makes those trijicon red dots, and the jpoint as well. So I've ordered the same as that but 1 moa.

I took the hit and ordered the shield 1 moa dot sms and an American defense qd mount.
Will report on how it goes eventually

that's along the lines of what I'm after but 8 moa dot way more than I want.

Thanks.

Ideally I was thinking the style along the lines of the Burris fastfire 3 etc.
The shield rms looks tempting

Reflex Mini Sight – SHIELDPSD

Any one got experience with the JPoint holographic sights?

Or can recommend a small/low profile one with 2 moa dot max (larger outside circle acceptable though) and able to withstand decent...