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haven't had a chance to try the ones i have loaded yet, as the weather gods keep screwing things up.

i can't remember how much i put in mine, i think they are loaded to the start of the shoulder.

I've got some loaded for my 308 but am yet to give them a go. i've got some 50 grain nosler shots and some 75 grain A-Max's loaded up. Not sure if the A-Max ones will stabilise in a 1-10 twist 308...