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wad shot a goose once poor bastard didnt know what hit it.

i speak as one who leads quail like they are quail and reguly miss,s

hehe i remember someguy saying the 410 was ok on geese you just lead the head like a quail :O_O::D
if your that good a slingshot would do you im not,
but i did use trap 7,s on night ponds to good...

no good for even on a night pond mickey???

i hear that
id still have the 20 if boss plated bismuth or even heavy bismuth was avaliable and wasnt dearer than petrol.:D

mate of mine made the 2 3/4 inch 12 gauge 30 gram gamebore steel loads sing.
in 3,s for ducks and 2,s geese he literally slayed them no muss no fuss

as far as the 410 goes i,ve shot it very little but the 20 gauge i shot everything from quail to 15 pound canadas and bigger feral geese.
the 36 gram 20 gauge loads in lead are unneccersarily heavy...