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yes I know what you mean If you want to see a shocker have a look at the early Browning semi auto .22 for sale on trade me out of Tauranga - now it says some corrosion in bore and they at least have...

yes the old faithfull 303 - shot my first deer at 16 with my fullbore rifle -complete with parker hale aperture- tunnel foresight and blade -had shot 200 and 300 shoot day before at Gisborne range...