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Interesting. Should email em see why it's not advertised as being capable of inverted use. It's been used that way since 2012. Maybe it's a legal thing.

I'm not sure. I can't find a manual on the net easily. Remember to run it upright for 30secs before trying with it inverted if you do test it. Be aware it might flare up so keep your face away from...

Cliff Yeah I think I could do that justice, just got a bit going on at the moment :) I'll continue to put some more info in here in the next couple weeks.

It's an interesting thought. It increases efficiency only if you're running the stove at a higher output than what a non-heat exchanger pot can handle. If you run a stove too hard a lot of that heat...

Hopefully I've explained it in a semi-intuitive way that people can use and actually apply it to their individual situation. I'm ommited a fair bit around the gas pressures which for our purposes...

I'm going to hospital pass the heat exchanger theory over to this fellow (Who is an actual stove designer) : https://youtu.be/EvWrxG30sNc

Have a listen to what he says about the heat exchanger...

I'll add more to this thread when I can so if we could keep the off topic chat over in the 'Off topic' section it'd be appreciated. :)

Coming up - Heat exchanger pots. Emporer's new clothes or...

It's probably got mesh in the middle of the hose. Maybe not stainless but something to give the hose a better pressure rating.

I think a lot of the problem with simmering with the windburner/reactor style is you can't see the flame with the pot on them. Your spider stove should be all good simmering if you use it in the...

No worries man. Notice the other thing with stoves is all the hoses used are covered with stainless braid - those aliexpress adapters are using clear PVC tube haha. Dodgy is just the start of it. The...

Yeah it would be cool if they made a stove like the remote canister version of the windburner but it could be used liquid feed mode. The windburner / reactor style burners are amazing in the wind....

If it a pure butane (n-butane) canister in theory it will not work. If the temperature of that gas is below it's boiling point (-1C for pure butane) you could tip it out into a cup and it would sit...

One key thing I didn't really explain was jets. Stoves have jets. They're tiny little orifaces (like 0.2mm) and that is what limits the output of the stove. They do that because if they weren't there...

If it's pure n-Butane no it theoretically won't at sea level. Very strange method for making your morning coffee anytime actually. :)

Part 6 - Safety.

I know, I know. Remember though, this is an open forum that anyone with access to the internet can see. I spent a lot of time when I was young eagerly browsing the forums sponging...

Part 5 - Regulated and Non regulated stoves.

This applies to upright canister stoves from part 2.

The two stoves shown both use a different type of valve to control the flow of fuel to the...

Damn. I didn't put in there roughly what each type of stove is good down to temperature wise.
I'll put it here before we go on.
These are rough numbers you can use if you can't be bothered doing...

Part 4 - Multi-fuel stoves.

All that stuff about our canister pressure being dependant on the gas temperature is a hassle isn't it? I wish we could just not worry about the temperature and make...

Part 3 - Inverted liquid feed canister stoves.

So how do we get around those issues of evaporative cooling and our gas mix changing for the worse that we saw with the upright canister stoves? We...

Part 2 - Upright canister stoves.

OK, Im going to start running through these stoves in order of worst in cold weather to best. I'm going to use MSR stoves as examples for no reason other than...

Part 1 - Gas.

Gases boil at different temperatures. When a gas goes above it's 'boiling point' it will change state from a liquid to a vapour. Our stoves require a minimum pressure difference...