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cheers for all the reply's. bit more of my back ground, been reloading for about 30 years, (.270) most of my shooting on tops and tussock country (last 20 plus years) is in the 300 to 500 metre...

i am looking for a longrange rifle, but don't want to go down the magnum road, i shoot mainly reds and am looking for a rifle to shoot out to about 700m, there is quite a bit being written lately...