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Fair comment Gillie. I was only referring to recoil for the most part; thinking more of small stature shooters rather than case comparisons.
No worries mate :)

That's very true :)

You'll make Jack O'Connor roll in his grave!

Still be a fair bit of recoil from a 284 Win putting a 160 grain out over 2900 fps though Gillie, don't you think?. Probably same recoil as 7mm Rem mag, especially with rifle around 10 lbs or less.
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