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mate if you want a real tooth loosener...try some rem hypersonics (preferably in a shotgun you dont own) faaaark those puppies are naaaaasty. used up the half box I was given and never ever again....

3" 20 guage is a bit of a hard case...sort of like the 3.5" roman candles in the .12ga
you push a big payload out of small bore and its going to hurt,either of those shells with smaller payload wont...

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yes the early slow steel loads were shite...pure and simple

a 1oz load of steel #2s going 1500fps is a good duck or goose killing load......with the right choke and within...

oops forgot to add,we prefer size #2 for ducks now after trying loads of other stuff over that 17 year period
the lake we shoot means we either kill em in close or range gets long quickly, the...

what a long winded read...but I waded right through BEFORE adding anything.
1st off target products WERE saying on web site they were bringing out lighter (1oz 7/8th oz ) .12ga loads soon and they...