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my good down bag was less tha $400 on sale at macpac.....katmando had same 40% sale on same day...went in knowing I could get discount being a SAR member and didnt use it as sale price was better...

a good own bag is priceless on a cold night.....a cheap liner from the warehouse $10-15 will boost your bags warmth and keep bag clean....will double as meat bag in a pinch,keeps flies off during...