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try the clunk clunk,solid knock at each end of stroke...it seems to work best for me....a visual check will show up anything major in difference in smaller .223 case...maybe not so much in 08 but it...

Ive got two powder throwers and a simple set of spoons.....
I dont bother using thrower unless doing more than 20-30 rounds and spoons are quick....
using ball or fine stick powder the throwers are...