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an once of steel #5s is different kettle of fish to steel #7-8s for same reasons as with lead..... but if going to once of steel #5s you may as well have velocity on your side......I like #2s for...

so if you apply the old rule of two shot sizes IN REVERSE ..... you asking 28grms of #8s to kill birds...yeah sure if everything is in your favour...NO WAY will you break bones....
the difference...

the steel clay loads are HOPELESS... as the velocity is too slow....if they were at normal steel speed,sure they would be awesome...but at 11-1200fps they are pitiful...I bought a box to try finish...

reading that...I can see I have used .12ga to do same,with similar payload weights.....I really rate the 30-32grm steel from .12ga....if you can find it the winchester xpert in 2 3/4 " 1 1/16th oz it...

20ga steel oz load... .12ga steel oz load...yip pretty much the same thing.
your wee .410 is good inside its limits and not so good outside them...sticking to the limits is the key.

if you are selective with loads,and realistic about range...a stick jammed in mud,anything closer than that is "go for it lad" he should do fine.my young fella had "job" of shooting woundies....and...

what we did with .12ga single bakail was fill the cavity of buttstock with leadshot..... the hole is big enough to fit half a pound.....which really soaks up any recoil and because its against...

the wee 410 is a great weapon IF USED WITHIN its capabilities...... and you are prepared to pattern loads ....every single .410 I have used (and that has been a few) are fussy huas and love what they...