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thats the senario that made a good mate(butcher) change up loads in .357mag for home kill....a couple of not quite right incidence made looking at different ammunition the right thing to do....

well the 151s pass through head of sheep or goats,I retrieved only 1 round from about 20 used on house muttons....I went off idea of subs completely,as the .223 with supers is just so much more...

seriously recomend you hit Robert up for some of his cast pills.... they SHOULD be slightly safer as less likely to exit and will do some expansion at subsonic speeds....speaking of which,if you go...

Robert has a 120 grn hp cast that looks very similar to the awesome 151s in .308 that so many fellas swear by...that would be my starting point and using trailboss IM GUESSING somewhere between...