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I haven't heard anything but good bout them but glass isn't as good as the sightron siii in a few reviews I read hence buying a sightron in the end.

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oh mate just looking at a video on explaining Mil and its alot easier to understand over moa as i havnt yet picked a scope from a learning perceptive Mil looks the go

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checked them out and this ones on par with the sightron i'm after and its cheaper........http://www.eurooptic.com/vortex-viper-pst-25-10x44-rifle-scope-ebr-1-reticle-moa-pst-210s1-a.aspx

yeah i noticed the vortex and checked them out but no one seems to sell them thats ships outta the US anyway i'm kinda sold on sightron at the mo:D

just been browsing you tube as you do and been watching a few videos from the NSSF mainly and there a few videos worth giving some credit as knowledge is more valuable then having the best equipment,...