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things are getting out of hand. That sort of stuff only used to happen on the way to Taumarunui.

In recent years you've been able to just walk up the middle of the water and climb straight up onto the rocks above. At other times there,s an interesting r=ock climb ad sidle with a step across...

Sounds like you're on the right track.
See if you can figure out where is is:
FishnHunt - New Zealands Famous Hunting and Fishing Forum Since 1995 - Orongorongo Goat Hunting

Sounds like youve been to quite a few places and could tell us where to get a goat !
As you probably know, the Topokopoko stream really needs goat numbers shot down. If you want to hunt deer there...